Beyond is the weakest of the trilogy imo.
Agreed. It had very incoherent storytelling. Made me appreciate JJ Abrams more.
Beyond is the weakest of the trilogy imo.
The fact that the enemy fleet was defeated by playing Beastie Boys kind of makes me want to hang myself.
Nah dude. That scene was badddd. Reallllllly badddddd.They were defeated by screwing with their communications, which is pretty much a time honoured sci-fi trope. The fact that people suddenly act like it's the dumbest idea ever conceived just because it involved a rock music montage is frankly bizarre.
Nah dude. That scene was badddd. Reallllllly badddddd.
I must be one of the few people who loved avatar. I just don't get the hate for it.
Mostly the excessive similarities to Pocahontas (and that others somehow didn't notice or were just willing to ignore that) and that Cameron was overly annoyingly preachy and, therefore, the story was too white hats vs. black hats.
They were defeated by screwing with their communications, which is pretty much a time honoured sci-fi trope. The fact that people suddenly act like it's the dumbest idea ever conceived just because it involved a rock music montage is frankly bizarre.
Naaaah duuude. It, like, totally was fine.
Can we not joke about suicide please?The fact that the enemy fleet was defeated by playing Beastie Boys kind of makes me want to hang myself.
It's not about whether it made sense, it's whether it stylistically fits Star Trek. Clashing styles has been an ongoing issue with Kelvin (and Discovery).
Pop culture references are best left to The Orville (like when they worked in Dolly Parton 9-to-5).
I must be one of the few people who loved avatar. I just don't get the hate for it.
It's not about whether it made sense, it's whether it stylistically fits Star Trek. Clashing styles has been an ongoing issue with Kelvin (and Discovery).
Pop culture references are best left to The Orville (like when they worked in Dolly Parton 9-to-5).
One dimensional sledgehammering that misses the trees for the forest if not the forest for the trees. Way too many plot holes that just cannot be overlooked. Way too flashy to distract since flashiness does not retain interest if there's no depth to accompany the flash. Arguably hypocritical. At least they were trying for something innovative but Cameron's track record should have had a bit more depth to the movie's tone and content. It simply has not aged well and the same trope has been told better lots of times, relying on a more balanced presentation and not teetering entirely on the side of pretty f/x puking across the screen.
This is also why Star Trek sucks (it's Wagon Train in space), Star Wars sucks (it's The Hidden Fortress in space) and Pocahontas sucks just as muh as Avatar (it's Lawrence of Arabia or Dances with Wolves, but worse because it's not even in space!)
Why is Pocahontas on such a high pedestal, anyways? It's probably not even in anybody's top 10 Disney animated movies.
All three of the Kelvin movies are some of my favorite Trek movies, with Beyond my favorite of the three.It stylistically fits the Kelvin movies just fine. I agree, they're not exactly the same style as other Star Trek and anyone who doesn't like them for that reason is totally understandable, but that doesn't make Beyond a terrible film for using a rock montage. It's no less Star Trek-ish than any other kelvin movie, so if you can't stand Beyond for that then the trilogy just isn't up your alley anyway.
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