Spoilers Avengers: Endgame grade and discussion thread

DadBod Thor is my new hero.

 

I called him Santa Thor.
Shame they didn’t include Doctor Who as one of their examples. Could have had some fun with that one.

 

An A.
A fitting end to the journey.

 

Someone on Comic Book Resources brought up a pivotal hero no one has talked about. The rat that hit the button on Ant-Man's quantum machinery. Things would have remained screwed without that unspoken hero.

 

I agree and disagree

I think the originals had a few years left in them, tbh Chris Evans is still in his prime and could go another 10 years if he wanted.

RDJ I understand him wrapping it up although he had 2-3 movies left in him imo.

Hemsworth is doing that men in black movie that looks like it's going to be terrible, and that's the thing with these actors, I mean is Chris Evans going to go on to star in great movies? Or will this be a bad career move without the guaranteed blockbusters every other year?

I don't want to see iron man rebooted or recast, RDJ nailed that role, he is iron man like Hugh is wolverine.

 

This movie somehow managed to get my to think about the shawarma scene of all things. I mean, where was Loki while they were eating? Did they just leave him flat out on the sidewalk with Mjolnir resting on his chest? (Probably!)
I'm also left wondering how they originally dealt with Pierce getting hold of Tesseract again. Did Thor just knock him on his arse or did Hulk's entrance just scatter them?

Yeah that was a great moment...though I can't lie, a treacherous part of my brain said to itself "wait, so EVERY female hero just happened to be in that part of the battle at that exact moment with Peter and not a single one of the male ones? Also, wasn't Wasp supposed to be on the other side of that horde, helping Scott get the van running?"
But what does that part of my brain know? It's still an awesome sequence.

 

So when Cap return the stones he must of meet the Red Skull..wonder how that went?

 

Someone tried to get a clap going in the cinema I was in and it failed miserably which was really weird because people were clapping the fuck out of other scenes. Made me want to see an All Female Avengers style team up movie.

 

If the soul stone was returned shouldn't Natasha have been revived? I mean it kinda feels like returning something and not getting your money back

 

Evans wants out because he wants out of acting (not necessarily all at once, but eventually). He's looking to have a directing career.

Chris Hemsworth doesn't want out at all by all accounts, and given how this movie ended I don't think he is out. He probably won't be getting another movie of his own, but he'll still show up.

And I remain not entirely convinced that Downey is fully out, either. I think there's still a high possibility of us seeing the Tony Stark AI as a supporting character in at least 1 movie, maybe more.

But I agree I don't want to see any of them recast. And I worry a little bit that the Old Man Steve ending is a possible setup for eventual recasting by de-aging Steve into a different actor.

 

I'm not sure if Chris Evans wants to act in blockbusters. I've got the feeling that he might be happy doing his own projects rest of his life. Directing and acting and living off of the Avengers money.

 

I guess they could use that as an excuse to bring Black Widow back at some point.

 

I'm fairly certain he's said pretty much this in a number of interviews. I remember seeing an interview with Evans where he does say he's been bitten by the directing bug.

He comes across as a very low-key and down to earth guy so it wouldn't surprise me if now he wants to shun the limelight chart his own course and only become Captain America again when it involves visiting sick kids in hospitals.

 

Returning the soul stone doesn't negate having taken it in the first place. This is one of the things that really surprised me about the movie, since IW really leaned into showing Gamora inside the stone I was certain we'd see more about that and at least an attempt (not necessarily succesful) to get her out - doubly so after Natasha joined her. But nothing was even hinted at.

Combined with the disappearance of past Gamora - who I assume must have gone back to her time since if she stayed why wouldn't she stay with her sister? - and the knowledge that GotG3 will involve Adam Warlock, most famous for his infinity stone connections, I'm starting to suspect that we haven't really seen the last of the stones. I think the soul stone storyline a lot of people were expecting to see here will possibly be in that movie. How else does GotG3 work with Gamora dead unless Quill can at least try to save her or talk to her? If they ever let slip that Scarlet is joining that cast, then it's basically a guarantee.

Of course, Thanos said/believed he destroyed the stones, but then the Ancient One said removing even a single stone would destroy the flow of time and that obviously didn't happen, so...

 

Gamora wouldn't have been in the Soul Gem when Natasha died, Thanos hadn't gotten there, yet. I expect Gamora, past her or present, will be largely hand waived away. On the other hand, GotG3 might go for Nebula trying to save past Gamora from herself. Whatever happens, just go with the flow since she is coming back more than likely.

 

Obviously, but Natasha would have been in the soul stone when Gamora died. Unless she got out before then somehow. There was also a Red Skull line that kind of implied one person going into the stone might release whoever's already in there, but I don't think it ever worked that way in the comics so I may have misheard.

I obviously believe she's coming back, but again, if they were really inclined to use 'past Gamora' as their loophole, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for her to be completely absent from the scene where all the Guardians reunite.

 

So moving into the next era of MCU, Who will be the next "Big bad"?

Galactus could be a lot of fun if done right, Victor von doom is another option now, he gets up to mischief

 

I'm not sure there will be a new 'big bad' right away. I do expect to see Doom, but not necessarily as the overarching villain for the whole series - rather as a superpowerful villain who gets around but isn't necessarily working towards a huge unified grand plan that the Avengers will have to stop.

I also expect we'll see the Secret Invasion storyline for either Avengers 5 or 6, but I don't think the Skrulls will be on Thanos level, either.