Avengers: Age of Ultron- Grading & Discussion (spoilerific)
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No -- though apparently he did do some uncredited re-writes on it and Thor, IIRC.
I don't think he had any involvement in Captain America: TFA until the post-credits scene (which he wrote). He oversaw Phase 2, not Phase 1.
Yep. I thought Obvious Joke Was Obvious, but apparently not.
Well, I thought Spader did have menace in his voice; I was just confused and annoyed with the notiont that the crazy bot that wants to kill all humanity is also hell-bent on becoming a daddy as quickly as possible. It might not bother me as much on subsequent viewings, but it didn't quite work for the first time.
That is what happens when some only view the world through false agenda-splattered glasses.
Ultron is the product of an unknown superpowered Alien tech and the programs created by Tony and Bruce. It's no surprise that the mating of those two things didn't produce a stable product, particularly as Tony wasn't there to guide the beginning stages of Ultron's consciousness.
Because as we all know, adding Tony to any situation involving people skills, calms things right down.
Did Ultron want to become a daddy? I thought he was creating Vision as a new body for himself.
Yeah, he was creating the body for himself/as the "prototype" for the next dominant species once humanity is wiped out.
Liked it.
I felt the same way about Avengers 2 as I did when I saw Iron Man 2: Good movie, but a notch below the first.
Avengers 2 felt slightly sloppy, and not as polished.
I'm also wondering whether the storylines are getting too convoluted. I've watched EVERY movie in the MCU, and enjoyed them *ALL*, but even I'm starting to lose track of story threads.
For example, when they said SHIELD was no more, I was like, "Did this happen during an episode of Agents of SHIELD?" My brother in law, who was part of the group that saw it tonight, told me it happened during Winter Soldier, which I had forgotten even though I *loved* Winter Soldier.
I didn't remember Natasha and Banner having a thing either.
In the old days, they had an "Intermission" card for the audience to take a break. Today, there are no longer Intermissions. Instead, scenes like the one at the Safe House in the middle have replaced it. The part where there's no action, random stroking of egos among characters, while I go off and take a quick bathroom to ensure I don't miss out on any cool ass-kicking or story development.
The plot also didn't seem like it was worthy of an Avengers movie. In the first film, the stakes were high because the Earth was being invaded. In this one, I wasn't clear on why it was so important that the Avengers assemble. Ultron was a badass robot, but something was missing.
It felt too much like padding the MCU.
Thank God for the Hulk-Buster vs. Hulk scene or otherwise my favorite Avenger would've hardly had any significant action scenes.
Ah, but what a great fight.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the film. But it lacked that special spark that made the first movie such an event.
It could be because the novelty is gone, but I think it has more to do with the story.
On a sidenote, I loved seeing Tony Stark wearing the same Bruce Lee shirt I have. One of my favorite t-shirts EVER! Oh, and I got a kick out of hearing Stark call Steve Rogers the leader.
I felt the same way about Avengers 2 as I did when I saw Iron Man 2: Good movie, but a notch below the first.
Avengers 2 felt slightly sloppy, and not as polished.
I'm also wondering whether the storylines are getting too convoluted. I've watched EVERY movie in the MCU, and enjoyed them *ALL*, but even I'm starting to lose track of story threads.
For example, when they said SHIELD was no more, I was like, "Did this happen during an episode of Agents of SHIELD?" My brother in law, who was part of the group that saw it tonight, told me it happened during Winter Soldier, which I had forgotten even though I *loved* Winter Soldier.
I didn't remember Natasha and Banner having a thing either.
In the old days, they had an "Intermission" card for the audience to take a break. Today, there are no longer Intermissions. Instead, scenes like the one at the Safe House in the middle have replaced it. The part where there's no action, random stroking of egos among characters, while I go off and take a quick bathroom to ensure I don't miss out on any cool ass-kicking or story development.
The plot also didn't seem like it was worthy of an Avengers movie. In the first film, the stakes were high because the Earth was being invaded. In this one, I wasn't clear on why it was so important that the Avengers assemble. Ultron was a badass robot, but something was missing.
It felt too much like padding the MCU.
Thank God for the Hulk-Buster vs. Hulk scene or otherwise my favorite Avenger would've hardly had any significant action scenes.
Ah, but what a great fight.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the film. But it lacked that special spark that made the first movie such an event.
It could be because the novelty is gone, but I think it has more to do with the story.
On a sidenote, I loved seeing Tony Stark wearing the same Bruce Lee shirt I have. One of my favorite t-shirts EVER! Oh, and I got a kick out of hearing Stark call Steve Rogers the leader.
You can't blame that on the movies. Sounds more like you're just having trouble remembering. Which is fine, but it's not the fault of the films.
I mean, that was pretty much the entire point of The Winter Soldier. Not remembering that is like not remembering that the Avengers defeated Loki.
That's because it never happened before this film.
I think you missed out on some very important character scenes.
Because SHIELD no longer exists, and because Ultron threatens the world.
I think you may be missing things from the films if you are just not paying attention during non-action sequences. Or you are just not remembering important points from prior films.
Well, they'd already assembled prior to the movie's opening to track down Loki's scepter, and maybe take down a few other baddies (Tony refers to "busting arms dealers", though that may not be an exact quote.)
As to missing key plot and character details, you're probably best off taking a break right as an action sequence is beginning.
Or other big players like soon to be murdered US Senators giving press conferences in the AoS universe which is supposed to be part of the AoU greater MCUniverse.
I think we have the case of a big name Director refusing to accept that he was the equivalent of an episode director during the run of Buffy or Angel.
