As said, probably not a lot. But I suspect at somepoint people told him about what happened on the Helicarrier and how he couldn't pickup Mjolnir.
Avengers: Age of Ultron- Grading & Discussion (spoilerific)
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As said, probably not a lot. But I suspect at somepoint people told him about what happened on the Helicarrier and how he couldn't pickup Mjolnir.
I actually interpreted that as both Bruce and the Hulk had a sort of attachment to Natasha, and in that moment they were both feeling betrayed by her (Hulk because of the constant lullabying which he clearly didn't like), so for once they were both more or less in agreement about what to do.
I didn't miss the point. I simply gave it a better response than it deserved, because "the point" was just a typical overreaction to the black characters in the film not getting as much screen time as the white characters, with the implication that some prejudice is afoot. All I did was point out that there might be legitimate reasons - both in-universe and in real life - why that worked out that way.
But you don't want to hear about that. You want "the point" to either be validated or cheered or you want somebody to disagree so you can scream and label them racist.
So now, in your honor, I will give the point the response it deserves:
WHO GIVES A FUCK??? I have more important things in my life to be concerned with than how many minutes ANYBODY who plays pretend for a living gets on screen in a goddammed comic book movie!
Sam Jackson, Don Cheadle and Anthony Mackie are all grown-ass men. They signed the contracts, read the script and reported on-set knowing how much exposure they'd have compared to their white counterparts. If they managed to get through that whole process without it bothering them, why the hell should it bother anyone else?
And frankly, if you find you can't enjoy a movie without making sure the number of minutes the black actors are on screen match what you think they're owed, you have deeper problems than Marvel's casting decisions.
^ No over-reaction at all in your post there, obviously.
To fair, Agents of SHIELD has been dealing with Hydra and the aftermath of The Winter Soldier for over a year now on TV, so I can see where hunting down Hydra might seem like old news at this point.
"Oh, jeez, Hydra again? I can see that every week on TV."
I said "response it deserved."
Overreaction begets overreaction.Now, everybody take a minute or two to laugh:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/black-widow-trailer/2863475?onid=148621#vc148621=1
I said "response it deserved."
Now, everybody take a minute or two to laugh:
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/black-widow-trailer/2863475?onid=148621#vc148621=1
You keep bandying around words like 'calm down' and 'over-reaction' but as someone who has no dog in this fight, it seems to me that the only person who's over reacting and who needs to calm down is yourself.
I just saw it and I think I'll give it a B.
It looked like a movie with scenes missing & certain plot elements coming out of nowhere, when previous Marvel films are taken into consideration.
Ultron & his disposable army were less impressive than I was hoping too.
It was nice to see the Avengers trying to save all those civilians in the city but it would also be nice to acknowledge how many died during the bewitched Hulk & Hulk vs Hulkbuster incident. If these were done in a DC movie the shitstorm would be big.
To be honest, I'm glad Whedon will not be coming back for the other 2 movies.
It looked like a movie with scenes missing & certain plot elements coming out of nowhere, when previous Marvel films are taken into consideration.
Ultron & his disposable army were less impressive than I was hoping too.
It was nice to see the Avengers trying to save all those civilians in the city but it would also be nice to acknowledge how many died during the bewitched Hulk & Hulk vs Hulkbuster incident. If these were done in a DC movie the shitstorm would be big.
To be honest, I'm glad Whedon will not be coming back for the other 2 movies.
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The Falcon was at the Avengers Tower party earlier in the film talking with Cap about who their still 'following every lead on their missing persons case' (in reference to the end of: CA: Winter Soldier I imagine. IMO he didn't really just show up out of nowhere - it was established he had contact and a relationship with members of the Avengers in that scene.
There's only solution. I'm afraid you'll have to go and see it again.Ah yes, I remember him being there now. I forgot about that conversation.Maybe he went off chasing another cold lead.
That movie was pretty fast-paced. Too much crap to remember.
I saw Anthony Mackie at the beginning. Of course, for most viewers all black actors look alike.
Saw it last night. This Avengers movie was much darker than the first one, and overall not as good, although I did like it. Ultron was a pretty entertaining villain with his dark sense of humor and his odd, human-like vulnerabilities. I didn't care for the actors that played Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. Maybe they just didn't have enough screen time to develop in those roles. A-
It's not that anyone necessarily "retired" at the end, but they may have just took leave. Who wouldn't deserve leave after all that shit? Plus, the departures at the end probably make it easier to explain if any one of them does not make an appearance in the next Avengers film (because the actors may not have a movie left on their contract with Marvel/Disney or if they did not fit the budget). In fact, I think Downey recently expressed a desire to stop playing the Iron Man character.
It's not that anyone necessarily "retired" at the end, but they may have just took leave. Who wouldn't deserve leave after all that shit? Plus, the departures at the end probably make it easier to explain if any one of them does not make an appearance in the next Avengers film (because the actors may not have a movie left on their contract with Marvel/Disney or if they did not fit the budget). In fact, I think Downey recently expressed a desire to stop playing the Iron Man character.
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I saw it last night and enjoyed it quite a bit. Like others I wasn't as wowed by it as the first one, probably because the novelty has worn of somewhat. Still, there was a lot I liked about. I particularly liked the character building of Widow, Banner, and Hawkeye. Some good stuff there.
I know a few people have mentioned the scene of Thor going to the cave with Selvig seemed to come out of nowhere, and that's because it pretty much did. It seems Whedon was forced to sandwich that in there to keep the Marvel Movie Machine moving forward.
Full story here.
I know a few people have mentioned the scene of Thor going to the cave with Selvig seemed to come out of nowhere, and that's because it pretty much did. It seems Whedon was forced to sandwich that in there to keep the Marvel Movie Machine moving forward.
Full story here.
They kind of did by referencing that people were calling for the Hulk to be arrested. Property damage could be dealt with and Stark even mentions that he'd have to buy that building he collapsed. So I think it was in reference to people being killed.
That's true but I don't think it was good enough.
Maybe they will revisit the issue in the Civil War storyline.
Yeah, I think the most telling thing here is that Hulk closed the rear door and turned off the comms.
Hulk.
Pushed buttons.
Not smashing them.
Clearly there's been a psychological shift in the Hulk-to-Banner ratio.
It may not have been directly acknowledged but the implication was certainly there and we saw, and heard, Tony try and to take Hulk out of the city -or at least use an unoccupied building to finally take Hulk down. And then of course over the ending battle we saw and heard them working to reduce or eliminate human fatalities. That's a whole heck of a lot more acknowledgment to human casualties than we got in MoS.
IDK - I think it was there in the first film, in the scene where one of the Chitari 'Dragons' is flying towards them and Captain America says:
"Dr. Banner, now might be a good time for you to get angry..."
And Banner relies:
"That's my secret, Cap. I'm always angry..."
And he then runs down the street turning into the Hulk as he goes and does a punch to the 'Dragon'.
https://youtu.be/NvY_sMf9b_Q?t=38
IMO - that scene to me showed Banner (at least in the first film) had more 'control' over the Hulk then he let on to those around him.
And again, while I actually liked this second film over the first in a lot of ways, I was (and have been) disappointed that the writers seem to keep riding the line between:
Does 'the Hulk' have his own unique personality and is just letting people think he's a monster?
and
The Hulk is essentially mindless, driven by instinct and influenced by banners 'motivations' (for want of a better term) as he changes?
In the first film they did give the Hulk some lines that reinforced the former as a possibility in the scene with Loki (after the Hulk smashes loki into the ground repeatedly - and IMO one of the best scenes in that film) where the Hulk, walking away says, "Puny god."
https://youtu.be/l8sLAJ1R9RU?t=41
In the second film, the Hulk himself had no lines that I could make out, and yeah, until the Quinjet scene where BW is saying they can't track the plane, the Hulk DOES push buttons to turn off the com-link, etc.
So yeah, I'm honestly disappointed that they really have yet to give 'the Hulk' a real personality (and my favorite is the Hulk personality from the VERY early Hulk comic appearances of the 1960ies where the Hulk WAS a separate yet still VERY intelligent personality (and it was the time where Banner just turned into the Hulk at night - anger had nothing to do with the change); so when it got close to sunrise - the Hulk would jump to the top of a high Mountain with no way down, or consume massive amounts of alcohol so that 'Banner' in effect was powerless to do anything until nightfall when the Hulk re-emerged.)
I'd like to see that done in a Marvel film myself...YMMV
I agree I was a little disappointed in the way Hulk was portrayed, but other than the lullaby need, he seemed to be "in control" during the opening action sequence and working with the team. He was also in control during the climax. It was just when he was controlled by Scarlet Witch that he went into a rampage and was so angry that he couldn't be reasoned with.
What disappointed me about that was that essentially the same trope was used in both movies to force the Hulk to rampage (it was the scepter in the first movie).
What disappointed me about that was that essentially the same trope was used in both movies to force the Hulk to rampage (it was the scepter in the first movie).
Yeah in MOS Supes caused most of the destruction by angrily pushing zod into any building that was in their way.
Mrs bbailey861 and I saw this one today. It was OK - gave it a B. Highlights, for us, were Hawkeye, both alone and with his family, the Hulk/Black Widow relationship, and Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver scenes. Those were the ones that we were still talking about a couple of hours later. Ironman, Captain America, and Thor left us feeling flat. I don't know, maybe it was just a bad day.....
