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Autopilot not functioning ... Who Cares?

Thomas Riker

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Why would Kirk Snr even need the autopilot on the Kelvin? We have something better ... inertia. Just point the ship at the Narada, fire up the engines, then head to the Shuttle Bay (of course I am putting aside the fact that the shuttles needed cover fire) this stinks of a major plot device.
 
Also the functioning of a ship could be like that of a car. You can't leave the engines engaged at impulse without someone manning them.

I always imagined it like that anyway, impulse has to be maintained like you would in a car, you can't accellerate without putting your foot on the pedal. Warp on the otherhand, I always thought it was kinda like the overdrive on older cars like the MG MGB GT (basically, you get to a certain speed and hit the overdrive button, and you'll stay at that constant speed until you hit the breaks).
 
(of course I am putting aside the fact that the shuttles needed cover fire).

Why put aside what is the biggest reason why Kirk stays behind and sacrifices himself ??

And autopilot in starships obviously means more than maintaining a steady course.
Since Kirk was going to engage it and leave, that means it can effectively control defense systems, would protect the fleeing shuttles and avoid any incoming Narada attacks.
 
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Here, "autopilot" includes automatic weapons control too, presumably. Besides, without the cover fire, the shuttles wouldn't have gotten very far -- what's the point of that?
 
Warp on the otherhand, I always thought it was kinda like the overdrive on older cars like the MG MGB GT (basically, you get to a certain speed and hit the overdrive button, and you'll stay at that constant speed until you hit the breaks).
Overdrive functions like an extra high gear on top of the high gear, allowing the higher RPM of the drive train at a lower engine RPM. The thing which keeps you at a constant speed is cruise control, which automatically manipulates the throttle and accelerator pump. Neither is really analogous to warp drive, though if you're set for Warp 6, that setting should remain constant until altered by the Helm.
 
Orrrr...without the autopilot he worried that the Narada would steer out of the ship's path before collision.
 
This is a lame question since he tells his wife he has to stay behind "to fight them off." The steering of the ship was not his main motivation for staying; it was that he had to manually fire the weapons
 
He was concerned that the moment he left, the Kelvin would chicken out and warp it's one nacelled ass the hell out of there.
 
Maybe the Kelvin was just faking to get those gung ho carbon units out of it's belly. Bravo George Kirk, I guess outsmarting appliances runs in the family.
 
Maybe the Kelvin was just faking to get those gung ho carbon units out of it's belly. Bravo George Kirk, I guess outsmarting appliances runs in the family.

Exactly. That's why Jim's Bud Classics are always ice cold. His fridge knows better than to mess with him.
 
Robau wouldn't have NEEDED autopilot. He could have glared at the Narada and caused irrepairable structural damage.
 
Robau wouldn't have NEEDED autopilot. He could have glared at the Narada and caused irrepairable structural damage.

George ordered the the systems to lock on to the largest source of awesome in the universe and fly twords it. Problem was the sensors went blind from scanning Robau and the computer core partly crashed because it could not process the shear awesomeness of Robau.

Therefore George Kirk had to stay behind and fly the ship in.
 
Robau wouldn't have NEEDED autopilot. He could have glared at the Narada and caused irrepairable structural damage.

George ordered the the systems to lock on to the largest source of awesome in the universe and fly twords it. Problem was the sensors went blind from scanning Robau and the computer core partly crashed because it could not process the shear awesomeness of Robau.

Therefore George Kirk had to stay behind and fly the ship in.


You, sir, are a damned GENIUS.
 
(of course I am putting aside the fact that the shuttles needed cover fire).

Why put aside what is the biggest reason why Kirk stays behind and sacrifices himself ??

Because in the last 60 seconds or so of that scene, Kirk is not firing anything anymore, he's just sitting there talking to his wife. So he really could have gotten away. But there needed to be a contrived sacrifice.
 
(of course I am putting aside the fact that the shuttles needed cover fire).

Why put aside what is the biggest reason why Kirk stays behind and sacrifices himself ??

Because in the last 60 seconds or so of that scene, Kirk is not firing anything anymore, he's just sitting there talking to his wife. So he really could have gotten away. But there needed to be a contrived sacrifice.

You assume 60 or so seconds are enough to reach a shuttle and get it out of the hangar bay, you have no clue if there are any shuttles left, which there aren't most likely with 800 people having to escape a few minutes back, you assume that even if there was a shuttle he would be able to reach a minimum safe distance from the Narada-Kelvin explosion within 60 or 120 or 180 seconds and not get vaporized anyway etc etc etc etc

Kirk knows there is no time or capability for escapes any more, so he says his goodbyes in the last minute of life he has.
 
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Kirk knows there is no time or capability for escapes any more, so he says his goodbyes in the last minute of life he has.


This and it had to be done for the plot. Too bad tho, i thought that Chris Hemsworth was awesome and he did so much with the character in the little time he had onscreen.
 
You assume 60 or so seconds are enough to reach a shuttle and get it out of the hangar bay, you have no clue if there are any shuttles left, which there aren't most likely with 800 people having to escape a few minutes back, you assume that even if there was a shuttle he would be able to reach a minimum safe distance from the Narada-Kelvin explosion within 60 or 120 or 180 seconds and not get vaporized anyway etc etc etc etc

Kirk knows there is no time or capability for escapes any more, so he says his goodbyes in the last minute of life he has.

You are making this up just as well as I do, so your ideas are not any more valid than mine. But thanks anyway. :)



60 seconds are also long enough for a shuttle to beam him aboard. I mean they transported from Titan to Earth, and from Delta Vega onto an Enterprise moving at warp speed, wouldn't have been a problem then I guess. Yes, it's 30 years earlier, but they already used transporters effectively in Enterprise, which is the only show they didn't ignore.
 
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