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At least 12 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

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He's nutty, but he might've been working from something he's read or seen in the media, like John Hinkley Jr. trying to impress Jodie Foster by assassinating Reagan, because he was obsessed with "Taxi Driver."
 
Some places are simply inappropriate for an infant, and I think a movie theater is one such place.

Before TDKR started, I went into the adjacent men's restroom only to discover that a guy had brought his little girl into the restroom with him. Luckily, when he saw me heading for a urinal he figured out that something was about to come out of my pants that his daughter shouldn't be seeing, so he pulled her out of sight, but she shouldn't have been in there in the first place.

I dunno, better than leaving her unattended in the lobby.
 
It's cheaper than the more logical conclusions of stopping midnight shows or hiring more security. Though none of these approaches would probably do anything but give people a false sense of security.
 
Oh for fuck's sake, people, knock off the critiquing of parents for bringing kids in movie theaters. It's getting disgustingly close to blaming the victims. Stop it.
 
Well, it does actually have one benefit. Currently anyone can show up at a theater dressed like a psycho killer and nobody thinks "OMG! It's a psycho killer!" until it's too late. At least it should make the psychos stand out from the crowd a bit more.

The Batman tragedy isn't the only type of thing this would prevent. For example, in Zombieland one of the protagonists accidentally shoots and kills Bill Murray in his own private theater because he was dressed up like a zombie (to avoid their attentions). So far we've been very lucky that people made up like zombies at zombie movies premiers haven't been gunned down because bystanders thought they were zombies, but eventually it was going to happen.
 
People should really take the "bringing children/babies to the movies" discussion into its own thread and divorce it from the shooting incident.
 
That's as maybe –*but what I think everyone is missing is that TDKR is not a movie for 4 year olds. Period
 
That's as maybe –*but what I think everyone is missing is that TDKR is not a movie for 4 year olds. Period

That's my take on it, as well. People don't seem to be trying to blame the death of these young children on the parents who allowed them to attend. It's a side topic that has developed from the tragedy - should they have been permitted to see a film as violent as TDKR in the first place?

For the most part, parents ought to be given credit for being the best judge of whether their children are ready to see a movie in public. Can they sit still long enough without bothering the other audience members? Sadly, many parents don't take other movie goers into consideration. But beyond that, a parent ought to be allowed to make that evaluation.

Regardless, I'm finding it difficult to believe that TDKR is in any way appropriate for a child of 6.
 
Well, from a certain point of view there's case that you get a violent society of you keep normalizing violence. The Nolan trilogy has been very violent, as befits the Batman mythos of the 21st century, and has also been a very good meditation on the effects, costs, and ethics of violence. Most children of six years or 3 months are simply not prepared for the complexities of Nolan's trilogy. That's not a knock on children, but an acknowledgement that there might be a point to age restrictions. What does a six-year old child take away from TDKR?
 
That's as maybe –*but what I think everyone is missing is that TDKR is not a movie for 4 year olds. Period

That's my take on it, as well. People don't seem to be trying to blame the death of these young children on the parents who allowed them to attend. It's a side topic that has developed from the tragedy - should they have been permitted to see a film as violent as TDKR in the first place?

For the most part, parents ought to be given credit for being the best judge of whether their children are ready to see a movie in public. Can they sit still long enough without bothering the other audience members? Sadly, many parents don't take other movie goers into consideration. But beyond that, a parent ought to be allowed to make that evaluation.

Regardless, I'm finding it difficult to believe that TDKR is in any way appropriate for a child of 6.

The topic has merit for discussion. However, the discussion doesn't belong in this thread.
 
And the corperate kneejerking has begun.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/new...icles/bn9/2012/7/21/amc_theatres_to_no_l.html

We'll never have to live in fear kids in hobbit costumes and plastic swords again.

Ridiculous. Stupid as all heck. This is reactive nonsense. The guy wasn't dressed up when he entered the theater. He left, put on his gear then came back in. What the f*ck does this have to do with costumes?

How about mandatory alarms rigged to the side emergency exits that require a manual reset (not just the door closing) to turn off? THAT seems at least more sensible. I know it wouldn't have stopped a very determined person, but it would have likely limited how much ammunition and weapons he brought in (forced to conceal rather than having a wide open door to bring in anything).
 
That's as maybe –*but what I think everyone is missing is that TDKR is not a movie for 4 year olds. Period

That's my take on it, as well. People don't seem to be trying to blame the death of these young children on the parents who allowed them to attend. It's a side topic that has developed from the tragedy - should they have been permitted to see a film as violent as TDKR in the first place?

For the most part, parents ought to be given credit for being the best judge of whether their children are ready to see a movie in public. Can they sit still long enough without bothering the other audience members? Sadly, many parents don't take other movie goers into consideration. But beyond that, a parent ought to be allowed to make that evaluation.

Regardless, I'm finding it difficult to believe that TDKR is in any way appropriate for a child of 6.

The topic has merit for discussion. However, the discussion doesn't belong in this thread.
Well, since you're not a Mod, we'll take your advise with all the respect it deserves.
 
If you'll forgive me, I have some thoughts on this whole bringing babies to the theatre thing. Mainly, why would anyone do it?

TDKR, for example, is nearly three hours long. Hell, include the time trailers take up and you are going to be in that theatre three hours. At some point, you're going to have to get up and take the kid to get changed or fed or whatever. But maybe you have a well behaved baby who you know can sleep through the three hours. Thing is, this movie is loud. I had to run to the bathroom to take a piss during one of the action scenes. I could hear the explosions and fighting very clearly while in the bathroom. Something that loud is going to wake a sleeping baby, and then you'll have to leave the theatre anyway to calm the kid down and get them back to sleep.

I'm not trying to criticize the parents, since in light of what happened, this is a rather silly thing to complain about. But really, if you're going to see a three hour action movie at midnight, find someone to babysit. If that's not possible, wait and see the movie at an hor you can. If it comes down to it, wait until the movie is on DVD where you can look after your child and not miss anything.
 
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Christian Bale comments...

"Words cannot express the horror that I feel," Bale, who plays the caped crusader in the film, said in a statement. "I cannot begin to truly understand the pain and grief of the victims and their loved ones, but my heart goes out to them."

Plus, studios have agreed to not release their box office numbers this weekend out of respect for the victims.

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