At least 12 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

[DigificWriter]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

Ignore my comments re: word usage. I was just ranting.

 

[tomalak301]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

We Americans are seriously fucked in the head, of that I have no doubt.

I wouldn't put the blame entirely on Americans even though we seem to be leading the charge. It's just the whole society in the world has failed.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

We Americans are seriously fucked in the head, of that I have no doubt.

I wouldn't put the blame entirely on Americans even though we seem to be leading the charge. It's just the whole society in the world has failed.

That is simply not true. Incidents like this are a tremendous exception, not typical in any way.

 

[tomalak301]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

We Americans are seriously fucked in the head, of that I have no doubt.

I wouldn't put the blame entirely on Americans even though we seem to be leading the charge. It's just the whole society in the world has failed.

That is simply not true. Incidents like this are a tremendous exception, not typical in any way.

Seems like these "tremendous exceptions" happen a lot more than they should though.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

I wouldn't put the blame entirely on Americans even though we seem to be leading the charge. It's just the whole society in the world has failed.

That is simply not true. Incidents like this are a tremendous exception, not typical in any way.

Seems like these "tremendous exceptions" happen a lot more than they should though.

Ideally, they would never happen. But they happen so rarely now that they always make national news. Remember, the news is an inverse reflection of reality. The news reports what is unusual, not what is typical.

 

[Rhaven]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

Please don't make this about gun control. Having weapons doesn't make a person do something like this.

Really? When was the last time someone murdered fourteen people with a butter knife? The fact that the suspect was peacefully apprehended suggests to me that he may be afraid of bodily harm.

Or that he wasn't willing to die just yet. He was wearing a vest, so he anticipated being fired upon.

I don't understand this logic, Rhaven: a man who is obviously mentally-unbalanced or very angry has a bunch of guns somehow, and kills 14 people including children. How is this not about guns or access to guns? People who defend guns don't get to dismiss an example just because it is troublesome to their cause. If the current state of American gun law is not to blame, that case needs to be demonstrated.

I wasn't dismissing the issue. If someone has it in their mind to do harm to others, believe me..they will find a way. They will find a gun, they will find bomb making materials, they will find a way to use them and certainly obtaining these things illegally if necessary

We have no idea when or how he got those guns. He could have purchased them before he displayed any signs of mental unbalance. He could have stolen them. He could have gotten them from a friend or relative. Hell, he could have bought them off the back of a truck somewhere, in which case even strict gun control laws wouldn't help. After all, drug laws haven't exactly made those hard to get. The point is, until more is known we can't really say anything except that the guy was nuts and should be punished.

I agree here.

Personally, I take this as a sign that concealed carry laws should be expanded. If someone with a permit like me had been carrying in that theater, there might have been a lot less killed. I'm not sure what the gun laws are in Colorado.

I don't agree here. You would have added to the mayhem and possibly could have caused the death toll to increase.

I AM interested in whether or not he should have been identified beforehand. After all, his mother's immediate response was to believe it and say that they had the right man.

That's like asking, how many mother's will turn in their own son's for being weird?

 

[Dac]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

Seems like these "tremendous exceptions" happen a lot more than they should though.

Shit like this has always happened since the dawn of time - only we can see it in High Definition 24/7 around the world in this day and age. I think there is an increase, but one that is probably connected to an expanding population as opposed to a higher percentage of people going crazy.

It's a horrible sickening thing with a million factors to it we can all pick apart. The only thing that has changed is the media picking it apart for the sake of making money, and sensationalism sells ads as opposed to picking it apart for reason and truth in the aim of achieving a fair verdict for the perpetrators. The latter still happens, its just we only tend to hear the former from the media.

 

[Dac]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

http://gawker.com/5927731/msnbc-pro...ble-for-dark-knight-shooting?comment=51142662

Words fail me.

 

[Set Harth]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

We Americans are seriously fucked in the head, of that I have no doubt.

I wouldn't put the blame entirely on Americans even though we seem to be leading the charge. It's just the whole society in the world has failed.

America is indeed fast becoming a predominantly evil country. Consider the fact that nearly half of Americans, based on how they wield their votes, would like to see health care become a privilege of the rich and denied to everyone else.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

http://gawker.com/5927731/msnbc-pro...ble-for-dark-knight-shooting?comment=51142662

Words fail me.

It's well-known that Star Trek promotes wanton mass murder.

 

[Dream]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

http://gawker.com/5927731/msnbc-pro...ble-for-dark-knight-shooting?comment=51142662

'Trekkie-Like Person’?

 

[Derishton]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

That's ridiculous, and makes you worry about the state of the FBI if that prpfiler was considered good enough to make a media career for himself afterwards. I suppose I could give him the benefit of the doubt and accept that "Trekkie" is cultural shorthand for "interested, perhaps obsessively, with alternate worlds." But I don't really feel like helping him out.

There is a debate to be had about occasional collisions between immersion in fantasy worlds and mental illness, I guess, but it's odd to go there first. I think all we really know is that this person chose a well-publicized place that happened to be perfect for his purposes. Really, that's it.

 

[Neroon]

This incident is fraught with understandable emotional reactions. But let's please keep away from veering into political debates that have little to do with the incident.

 

[superdeluxe]

Jesus, Everything is going to be blamed for this. Star Trek? Seriously?

 

[Dac]

Apparently he was a med-student in neuroscience up until last month.

http://gawker.com/5927722/what-we-know-about-dark-knight-shooting-suspect-james-holmes

I think you have to be pretty well balanced in order to get ON to a course like that, and have a reasonable level of intelligence. He dropped out last month. Whatever happened, I'd say the stimulus for this is recent.

 

[1001001]

I just read that the shooter's apartment is booby-trapped, and the police and FBI can't get in.

It's pretty scary how much thought and planning went into this.

 

[superdeluxe]

Apparently he was a med-student in neuroscience up until last month.

http://gawker.com/5927722/what-we-know-about-dark-knight-shooting-suspect-james-holmes

I think you have to be pretty well balanced in order to get ON to a course like that, and have a reasonable level of intelligence. He dropped out last month. Whatever happened, I'd say the stimulus for this is recent.

What if he is a mad genius

 

[Gaith]

Re: 14 killed, 50 injured at midnight showing of Batman movie

Seems like these "tremendous exceptions" happen a lot more than they should though.

Ideally, they would never happen. But they happen so rarely now that they always make national news. Remember, the news is an inverse reflection of reality. The news reports what is unusual, not what is typical.

Robert Maxwell is right. Crime has in fact taken a tremendous per capita dive in the past few decades, and global human deaths due to warfare is at an all-time low.

 

[Dream]

Picture of suspect has been released.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18922685#TWEET175825

 

[Derishton]

There's no certain or necessary link between mentally/emotional balance and intelligence, and any number of things can either trigger something otherwise latent (or what was good when applying for schools, obsessiveness, becomes bad in other contexts).