"Ask" as a noun

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  1. LaxScrutiny

    LaxScrutiny Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Kids these days, rebelling against verb/noun distinctions. They think it makes them cool, sitting in front of a keyboard typing contrarian verbiage just to show how special they are. Been there, done that. [/old fart]
     
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  2. LaxScrutiny

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    You know, I could live with that. Back to Finance, "put and call." Doesn't bug me as much as "ask." Wondering why not?
     
  3. Mojochi

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    I certainly feel for you. It's unanimously consider that Mandarin is the hardest language to learn on Earth. However, if you rephrase that to what's the hardest language in the world to understand, it might have to be modern English, based solely on the ever changing nature of it. It easily has to be the most amorphous language in use on Earth.

    Even us native speakers start losing grasp on some of its usage within our own lifetimes. Every generation seems to want to put a spin on it that makes it their own, & usually not in a way that makes it simpler by any metric. It's always adding more nuance & meaning & flexibility to the already most used words, like the word with the most definitions, "Set"

    It could eventually be that the majority of our language we'll feature mostly 2-5 letter, monosyllabic words that have endless amounts of meaning. Go, do, so, to, be, is, set, get, hit, bit, put, ask, act, pay, say, see, make, call, have, need, take, will, want, work, play, send, stop, drop, lead, hand, head, face, side, deal, land, like...

    In fact, having ask be a noun makes about as much sense as having like be one, which thanks to social media, getting a "like" isn't thought of as odd at all anymore
     
  4. Mojochi

    Mojochi Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Probably just familiarity. Call has been a noun for ages. Put I've never actually heard as a noun. Is that a stock broker thing or something? a put?
     
  5. Mr. Laser Beam

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    That doesn't make it right. :shrug:
     
  6. Nerys Myk

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    That's pretty much what makes it right.
     
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  7. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Just because an expression is widely used doesn't make it any less stupid.

    This isn't "yelling at clouds", just pointing out the obvious.
     
  8. Nerys Myk

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    Language evolves. I'm sure some Elizabethan wag would find some of our modern usage "dumb".
     
  9. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Perhaps.

    But they would have the advantage of being dead, so they don't have to deal with the inanity of nouns being used as verbs and vice versa. :lol:
     
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    Old people gonna old.
     
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    Idiocracy creeps closer and closer to being a documentary every day. :p
     
  12. Nerys Myk

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    Change is inevitable. And for the English language more than most. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of it's history knows that.
     
  13. Mr. Laser Beam

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    Meh. Evolution is overrated. :shrug: :lol:
     
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    Where would we be without it?
     
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    I neither know, nor care.
     
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    Hint: not chatting on the internet.
     
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    With that attitude you're certainly doing your part to help it become reality.
     
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  20. LaxScrutiny

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    They're treated as nouns, just like bid and ask. It's trader jargon. A call option gives the buyer the right to purchase at a certain price. I would sell you a "call" for a higher price, betting that the price will go down and I keep your money because you don't want to buy. If you choose to buy at that higher price I'd buy up the shares for cheap and sell them to you for the contracted price, but of course no one would do that. If the price goes up, you "call" my bet and get the shares for cheap.

    A put is the opposite. I sell you a "put" (this is the expression treating it as a noun) and it's my option to buy from you for cheap if the price has gone up. It's really just gambling.