Ashes to Ashes BBC One Tonight

[Bob The Skutter]

^I think you're thinking about the scene where Gene told Sam that he was there because he wanted to be.

I just got the soundtrack this morning. I remember more of them than I expected, a few songs I'm still drawing a blank on though.

 

[Starkers]

^I think you're thinking about the scene where Gene told Sam that he was there because he wanted to be.

I just got the soundtrack this morning. I remember more of them than I expected, a few songs I'm still drawing a blank on though.

Yeah that's the one, thanks!

 

[biotech]

I don't know about Gene admitting that he is fictional, I think the ending might have come close to reversing the end of LOM, where both Tyler and Drake may actually have travelled back in time for real.

 

[wamdue]

^ I hope this hasnt been said, but Sam was never sure it was just a dream, unlike Alex who was very sure, so logically the Gene in Alex dreams would be aware of the fact he wasn't real, as she would give him that, and as she constantly reminded him.

 

[biotech]

^ I hope this hasnt been said, but Sam was never sure it was just a dream, unlike Alex who was very sure, so logically the Gene in Alex dreams would be aware of the fact he wasn't real, as she would give him that, and as she constantly reminded him.

Being sure of something doesnt always mean you are right though.

 

[wamdue]

fair point

 

[Guy Gardener]

Not if you're insane. Anyone sure they're mad?

Alex had psyche evaluations for Sam in the pilot. If Gene was real, then some one would have asked him why Sam Tyler was telling porkies about him.

 

[Deckerd]

I'm sure I've said this before, but they both had ample time to find out if Gene existed; after Sam came out of his coma and before Alex went into hers. It's what a real cop would have done.

 

[biotech]

But then why would they?

By waking up Sam knew his was just a dream, and since Alex had no reason to believe Hunt was real, why would she look him up either?

 

[Deckerd]

It's still what a cop would have done. Just out of curiosity if nothing else.

 

[Starkers]

I'd agree, certainly if not look for Gene Hunt you'd have thought Sam might have been curious about Annie.

 

[biotech]

When the end of LOM was wrote, they knew ashes to ashes was coming, by having Sam look up the people to see if they were real, it would have demolished the entire "is it or isn't it" concept of the follow up series.

And that's the same reason Drake wouldn't have done it either.

Revealing them as real people that actually existed is a franchise ending event.

 

[wamdue]

I think they should do a series with Alex in 2009 but being followed around by a Gene Hunt only she can see, sort of like an imaginary friend

 

[biotech]

Its already been said that the next series of ATA will be the last time we ever see Gene Hunt in anything.

 

[wamdue]

ok do it as the final episode of A2A, I kind of like the idea of Alex being unable to escape him, even in her own time.

 

[WillsBabe]

I enjoyed it. I thought I wasn't going to, but I really did. I'm glad that Evan wasn't the villian of the piece since I liked him the moment I saw him. The bit where Gene comforted child Alex really moved me. And I smiled wrly at dinner when adult Alex tells Gene that despite 40 years of feminism a whole trench of women would love to have dinner with him. She's right of course, myself included! I enjoyed this far more than LOM. Looking forward to series 2. Come back, Gene Genie, we miss you already.

 

[Starkers]

Its already been said that the next series of ATA will be the last time we ever see Gene Hunt in anything.

Aw, guess that rules out my idea for a series where Gene Hunt is run over by a Sinclair C5 in 1983 and wakes up in a Pluto police station in 2035 then

 

[firehawk12]

They should really fuck with people and have the last shot be of some cop from L&O.