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article on the books' response to Trek XI

Thrawn said:
^ Yeah. And other weird little stuff too; it always bugged me that in the book they referred to the ship as "The Voyager", as in "let's get back to the Voyager", much like TNG had "let's get back to the Enterprise", but in the show they just said "Voyager", like "let's get back to Voyager".

Aren't I a nerd? :lol:
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Do not fear, many of us share in the nerdiness. ;)
 
I loved that Ghost Ship and the first Voyager novel (with "Doc Zimmerman") were "all wrong" (I only read them years after release). I think that gives them a special charm and uniqueness that'll never be replicated with the later "correct" novels.
But then I've always had a soft spot for messed-up Trek.

I thought The Seige was great, and IMO the early DS9 books were far better than the TV series.
 
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Know the most frightening fall-out of all of this?

Our own literary Angel of Death now has a whole NEW universe full of people to write into horrible deaths! And for all the people he already killed, he can take another go at offing them if he enjoyed it the first time around! :eek:
 
Scout101 said:
Know the most frightening fall-out of all of this?

Our own literary Angel of Death now has a whole NEW universe full of people to write into horrible deaths! And for all the people he already killed, he can take another go at offing them if he enjoyed it the first time around! :eek:
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:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::guffaw:
 
Dimesdan said:
The only place I have seen Trek 101 was in Forbidden Planet in London last year, not seen hide or hair of it anywhere else.
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I saw it at a new bookstore in Dartmouth recently, and just got it on Amazon, to refresh myself on the Trek I've missed.

Seems a shame they didn't market that for the nutrekkies coming off the movie.
 
I believe that was originally supposed to be the idea, but then they ended up pushing back the movie's release, and they no longer lined up.
 
^That's right. Star Trek 101 was very specifically designed for new fans, as the title indicates, but the change in the movie's release date screwed that up.
 
I realize that schedules are often difficult to change once they're made (especially in the publishing industry), but what are the reasons that the book couldn't have been (a) delayed until May 2009, or (b) released on schedule, and then re-promoted/re-released in May?
 
Ood Sigma said:
I realize that schedules are often difficult to change once they're made (especially in the publishing industry), but what are the reasons that the book couldn't have been (a) delayed until May 2009, or (b) released on schedule, and then re-promoted/re-released in May?
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Storage costs money that Pocket didn't have.
 
Scout101 said:
Our own literary Angel of Death now has a whole NEW universe full of people to write into horrible deaths! And for all the people he already killed, he can take another go at offing them if he enjoyed it the first time around! :eek:
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He can't, you know. ;)

Anyone in the new timeline/universe has to be approved for death by CBS Consumer Products and Bad Robot, and almost every character every known, both the live ones and the original universe's dead ones (except Amanda Grayson) may be required for a sequel movie. Unless CBS Consumer Products, Bad Robot, and the Pocket editor are convinced the character will not be required they must be kept alive. :rommie:
 
KingDaniel said:
I loved that Ghost Ship and the first Voyager novel (with "Doc Zimmerman") were "all wrong" (I only read them years after release). I think that gives them a special charm and uniqueness that'll never be replicated with the later "correct" novels.
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Ditto, but they did cause a lot of anger directed towards the authors, with many fans not realizing the conditions under which those early novels were written, nor appreciating that Pocket had attempted to sate our need for TNG and VOY tie-ins as early as humanly possible.

Sci said:
Storage costs money that Pocket didn't have.
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Exactly. The longest storage, AFAIK, was the warehousing of all the dustjackets of the hardcover "Probe", because the novel itself was delayed by 12 months for last-minute major rewrites.
 
Therin of Andor said:
The longest storage, AFAIK, was the warehousing of all the dustjackets of the hardcover "Probe", because the novel itself was delayed by 12 months for last-minute major rewrites.
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I wonder when Pocket finally disposed of the dust jackets for The God-Thing. I know they were printed, because I've seen one.

I also wonder why Pocket didn't dispose of the Probe dust jackets and have them reprinted with Gene DeWeese's name. Yes, that would have amounted to throwing money down a hole, and Probe had already cost a fair bit of coin by that point with the various rewrites and ghost writers. But it would have been more honest.
 
I was very disappointed by the lack of tie-in/making of books. For such a big summer movie, I would have thought they're be a lot more merchandise tied into it for release.
 
Allyn Gibson said:
I also wonder why Pocket didn't dispose of the Probe dust jackets and have them reprinted with Gene DeWeese's name. Yes, that would have amounted to throwing money down a hole.
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IIRC, the first changes weren't intended to delay the book for a whole twelve months, just a few weeks - but with each change of writer/"fixer", the delay got longer and longer. Also, DeWeese's contract for his rewrites probably specified that he wouldn't be getting cover credit. And MWB was a much bigger/popular name for ST novels than DeWeese.
 
^The Kelvin was initially going to be called the Iowa. The concept art that's been released online uses that name.
 
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