Why do you keep insisting ALL the earth's need to be merged?
And the whole Wells thing has been played out. They missed their chance to have a sorrowful, sympathetic and broken Wells this season
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And the whole Wells thing has been played out. They missed their chance to have a sorrowful, sympathetic and broken Wells this season
I maintain there's a middleground with all this merging. That is that merging is limited to Earths 1 & 38 (and possibly Black Lightning's) and merge in such a way that memories & history are altered, doppelgangers vanish so you're left with one version of the character, you don't have to tear down sets and so forth, but all the 'legacy Earths' i.e. Earths that past films & TV shows and a whole slew of Earths from the Arrowverse survive so that you can have a multitude of Wells for the Flash for instance (which probably only has a couple of seasons left to it). I certainly could see that happening.
Meanwhile another clip has dropped. Spoilers of course.
And this contains segments of an interview with Kevin Conroy about COIE - again spoilers:
And this contains a little bit of the Stargirl teaser trailer that WB pulled.
Meanwhile another clip has dropped. Spoilers of course.
And this contains segments of an interview with Kevin Conroy about COIE - again spoilers:
And this contains a little bit of the Stargirl teaser trailer that WB pulled.
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Naturally if you start with the premise that they'd merge the Earths, you can concoct a way for how they'd make it work. But that doesn't make it a valid premise that they would want to do it in the first place or that it would be a good idea to do it. If you start with the conclusion you want, you can always find a way to justify it. That's why it's better to reason objectively from first principles and see what conclusion they lead to. From first principles, approaching this from the perspective of the Arrowverse as a set of television shows and reasoning from their specific needs and circumstances, it just isn't logical to conclude that they'd have good reason to merge the different worlds. Especially not Black Lightning's world, since it's a largely separate production despite being under the Berlanti umbrella, with distinct producers, a different target audience, a different filming location, etc.
I suppose it's not out of the question that they could merge Supergirl and Superman into Earth-1. I don't want them to do that, I don't see any advantage to doing that, but I guess it's possible that they'd like to bring the Supers fully into the fold at last for sentimental reasons, at least. But BL will remain apart. And of course any parallel world from a different ongoing DC show like Stargirl or Titans will remain in existence and separate. Probably Smallville's world will as well, so as not to upset its fans.
Why do you keep insisting any of them need to be merged?
I have never insisted that "all the Earths need to be merged." What I have said is that I don't agree with those who do expect the Earths to be merged, whether it's all of them or just Earth-1 and Earth-38, because I don't see any good story reason to merge any of them.
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It just doesn't make sense practically or logistically for CoIE to drastically alter the fabric of the Arrowverse or its "core" series the way that I see a lot of people online - and in the podcasting community - expecting it to.
IGN has posted an interview with the showrunners of each of the Crisis series.
Each of the main characters will go through something significant.
They also addressed in very vague terms how it will effect the rest of the show's seasons.
Legends Season 5 is basically going to be a sequel to Crisis.
There is some kind of "reset" that effect the rest of Supergirl's season.
It sounds like Batwoman will be the least effect, but there will still be something.
Something significant happens to Barry that will effect the rest of the The Flash's season.
Crisis "literally changes everything" on Arrow.
Marc Guggenheim has said that when it comes to next season's crossover, they will take several steps back.
Each of the main characters will go through something significant.
They also addressed in very vague terms how it will effect the rest of the show's seasons.
Legends Season 5 is basically going to be a sequel to Crisis.
There is some kind of "reset" that effect the rest of Supergirl's season.
It sounds like Batwoman will be the least effect, but there will still be something.
Something significant happens to Barry that will effect the rest of the The Flash's season.
Crisis "literally changes everything" on Arrow.
Marc Guggenheim has said that when it comes to next season's crossover, they will take several steps back.
My thought is that instead of doing one massive crossover, they should just have smaller but more frequent cross-show interactions over the course of the season. Especially if I'm wrong and they do merge Supergirl with the rest -- we should see what the consequences of that blending are on an ongoing basis.
I loved Hal's fall. Emerald Twilight was great. Parallax was scary but understandable. It was the fall of Anakin and the rise of Darth Vader, the best pilot and greatest space cop destroying everything out of rage and sorrow, just trying to make things right and restore his loved ones. The ultimate power corrupts God complex. Anything evil he did was ultimately going to be undone via Zero Hour, from his own perspective. Ends justify the means. It was fascinating.
Then the stint as The Spectre....
Hal was never really gone like Barry and Jason were, and Kyle was never as awesome as Wally or Tim.
Still not quite sure how they brought Oliver back, and never really read a lot of Connors arc.
What if they killed both earth 1 and earth 38 and they merged into Smallville world with Weiling and Durance and offscreen their Lex to be replaced by the one's created on Smallville. We never saw Gotham or any of the Arrowverse cities on the show. The cool feature for Supergirl is their Lex is now President of the United States. He could actually be thorn to all the shows from time to time. Kind of like Ares back in the day on Hercules,Xena and Young Hercules. Not only that we can see the Smallville' s Wells. Jason
There would be no point - every single character was done differently on Smallville - Hawkman, Vandal Savage, Deathstroke, The Flash, Green Arrow, etc, not to mention a different Supergirl and a totally different Krypton. A wrinkle where Lex is now suddenly President, in a vaccuum, Flashpoint/Mandela Effect style, might be okay.
The thing is though is Smallville and Arrow are no longer shows so what is important isn't the past but what you can do in the future. They basically can cherry pick the stuff they like and discard the rest. It would even be mystery if they keep their memories, what all changes would be. Jason
I hope not, I like Cryer as Lex, and I'd hate to lose him and have to go back to Lex being an offscreen presence since Micheal Rosebaum doesn't want to be involved with the Arrowverse.
I made a brain fart. I meant to say Supergirl,Superman,Lex and Lois and even others would replace their counterparts on Smallville. But if you want you have the option of Lionel Luther brought back to life,Marsters as Brainac,Lana Lang etc if you want to. Also the show would rarely even go to Smallville the town. Jason
He didn't want a short notice no pay no plan decide right this second crisis gig thrown at him the day of a funeral or something like that. We don't know his opinion of the arrowverse.
The suggestion was to use Smallville history but have them played by the arrowverse actors.
I wouldn't mind welling and Durance getting stuck on Earth 1 afterwards with their memories intact, but everyone else just thinks they are the same old Tyler and Elizabeth. It would especially work if they used it to age their Jon. The disparate takes on Krypton would still be difficult to integrate.
We just had an evil-president arc on Supergirl last season.
We already got 10 Seasons of Smallville and 1 season worth of comics, I really don't see the go back to that world on a regular basis. A one off revist for something like Crisis or even occaisional recurring appearances by characters from it is fun, but I have no interest in anything more than that.
If you talking about doing this for the Superman and Lois series, than I'm even more against it. I'd much rather see the characters do their own thing on Earth-38 or Earth-1.
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