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Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths to be 5-Part Crossover

The Crisis Aftermath show just had Kevin Smith "win" a trivia game even though one of the answers he gave was incorrect.

Despite what the show said, Arnold Schwarzenegger's Mr. Freeze would be found on Earth-89, not Earth-97.

Do your homework, people.

Well maybe they are saying Earth-89 was the Batman we saw with Michael Keaton and then the other Batman movies were other multiverse versions?

Or evertything until Batman & Robin was in Earth-89 because that was Tim Burton's Batman with him directing Batman and Batman Returns and producing Batman Forever... But that then Batman & Robin takes place in Earth-97 because Tim Burton had no input on it so it becomes a new multiverse. Like how we are getting different Supermen in this crisis.
 
Well maybe they are saying Earth-89 was the Batman we saw with Michael Keaton and then the other Batman movies were other multiverse versions?

That's ignoring established factual history.

All of the Batman films between 1989 and 1997 occupy the same continuity, so the Crisis Aftermath trivia contest just got it wrong, but then tried to pretend that Kevin's answer was right when it wasn't.

Period.
 
Where are we talking about these episodes? I thought this thread would have more activity, especially during the Aftermath show. Don't want to post in the wrong thread. I did like the idea of just doing a running thread for COIEs, new and fresh. This isn't really about the individual shows, it's about the Arrowverse as a whole.
 
Stephen is in the third part of Crisis as Oliver, but I'm not so sure that it's Earth-1 Oliver given what happened tonight.

We'll see, though.
 
Okay, so that went largely as expected from the trailers and descriptions, but with some surprises. Mainly, I didn't expect Oliver to die so soon, though I doubt that will stick, since they wouldn't ditch their star player so early in the huge crossover. Also, we barely got any Barry/Oliver interplay, and I think they said in interviews that there will be more of that.

So Earth-89 and Earth-66 are obvious, but why is the Titans world called Earth-9?

So far, this has one of the same problems the original CoIE had, which is that it's just too cluttered. You'd think Nash showing up and telling the sad tale of how he released the Anti-Monitor and is now a Pariah would warrant a big scene, but it's just a random throwaway moment in the middle of Oliver's death scene. Why is he even there? It would've been better to leave his intro for the opening of Part 2. And the bit about Ollie finally learning about the discrepancy in the Monitor's predictions -- telling Oliver he had to die to save Barry and Kara while telling Barry he still had to die -- was far too cursory for something that's been building up for a year. Although on the other hand, it's entirely in character for Oliver to process it so quickly and react so decisively.

It's also quite hard to believe that Oliver staying for a few extra minutes and shooting a few arrows and fighting an army of demons with his bare fists would save a billion people. And why did the Monitor just whisk the others away without asking but not do the same with Ollie?

The antimatter wave makes no sense. Somehow Argo City is the only inhabited world(let) in its path even though it's spreading through the whole universe and destroying everything? And it bounced off the "edge" of the universe, which is infinite in size and has no edge? And even though it's fast enough to reach the edge of the whole universe and back in 5 hours, it's slow enough that you can see it coming and have time to prepare?


Also who was that reading the newspaper on Earth-89?

Alexander Knox (Robert Wuhl), the reporter from the 1989 Batman movie.


In the post show, they said all of them were destroyed, including Earth 9.

Which reinforces my expectation that the destroyed worlds will be restored at the end. There's no way they'll leave things as they are here, since that would mean throwing out all those expensive Supergirl standing sets, not to mention dropping the whole Leviathan plot, the Martian storyline, the Legion, etc.

Of course, this is all just fiction, so the makers of Titans wouldn't be prevented from making their show just because a different work of fiction claimed their universe was destroyed. But it would be pretty hubristic for this show to claim a different show's world had been permanently erased while it's still ongoing.
 
Some thoughts--overall a good thought.

SPOILERS....







Very surprising about Oliver. Not so surprising that Superwimp needed a pep talk and the writers made it a point to have him run out of gas before his woke master.

But aside from their inability to write Superwimp, the episode was very good.

To start off with a surprise cameo from Robert Wuhl was outstanding. The Burt Ward cameo was fun, and the fact that they wiped out the Titans' world made me believe the multiverse will survive in some capacity.

What I don't get is why the Monitor didn't recruit a larger team, like Oliver mentioned. And if the fate of Earth 38 is on the line, why send Superwimp and Supergirl off to stop floods when their clear priority was stopping the shadow demons.

And speaking of the shadow demons or whatever they were, how hard could they be if they get stopped by an arrow or a batarang? If they are that easy to kill wouldn't the ARMY or POLICE be out there fighting?

That's one thing that I've only seen addressed well once, in the Superman episode Apokolips Now. In that episode, when Darkseid invaded, the humans fought too and held their own against Darkseid's army while Superman saved the planet from being turned into another Apokolips.

Sending your three most powerful allies away didn't seem like the best tactics.

The Monitor literally had the entire multiverse to choose from. We know from spoilers that there are other versions of Superman and Supergirl. There are other versions of Flash. Even ignoring that Wonder Woman and Aquaman are absent, the idea that if they want to make a stand, to only have 3 powerful forces of good and a couple of archers and someone throwing a batarang is a bit strange.

But I'll go with it because there are 4 hours left. I'm very hopeful to see the Routh version of Superman, as he might actually be written better. I'm guessing the Welling version will disappoint since I doubt he will have a big role and it may be just a small cameo.

If it isn't, then I will tip my hat because they did some Star Wars level secrecy.


I always figured that he would be given the Earth 2 Superman treatment and end up in limbo with Felicity.

They had an interesting opportunity to make an Alexander Luthor with Jonathan, but I guess that's not happening if Superwimp is having a series next year. Can't age Jonathan to adulthood based on what we know.

Oliver's death surprised me a bit. I don't think it has hit me because I with 4 hours left and 3 more Arrow episodes, I can't believe that's it for him.

I think Steven Amell was terrific in this episode. But I'm still not buying that he's done yet.
 
Eh. As pointed out in the Supergirl review, this first chapter felt rushed, and despite every pronouncement of imminent danger, it was lacking the absolute dread the classic comic had from the start, letting you know this was no ordinary superhero story by a longshot. Further, most of the main players were not given much to do, other than the writers trying their hand at a few MCU-esque quips here and there. Hopefully, the Batwoman chapter will be as serious as the rest of that series
 
Well, noticed that Supergirl's…

Heat-or-whatever vision held up longer than Clark's when they were charging those solar arrays.

That's why the show's called Supergirl.
 
If Warner Media is still working with Viz, it would have been cool to see Earth-92. Shot to Tokyo and a shot of a Japanese girl with a very unique twintail hair style looking up at a red sky :)
 
It’s not more compelling because you came up with a (not at all) “clever nickname”.

It's not a clever nickname. But it is accurate as to his portrayal. This guy is not Superman. He is a submissive wimp. He is not mentally or physically Superman. Just a guy there to be a jobber to Supergirl. Maybe this changes in the series, but they need to realize who they are dealing with. Superwimp is not going to do very well until he is written better.
 
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