Was this the first time Opal City was mentioned?
Arrow - Season 3
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Probably, since the Arrow & The Flash Wiki doesn't have an entry for it yet. (Formerly known as the Arrow Wiki. I wonder what they're going to rename it when the third series comes out. We're gonna need a name for this ever-growing universe.)
DCTVU Wiki?
I can't say I'm too disappointed to see Roy leave. I thought the actor was fine as Roy but I've never really been sold on him as Arsenal.
One thing I really liked about this episode was that they introduced a metahuman who wasn't created by the accelerator accident. It opens up a lot of doors. And I continue to love high tightly Arrow and Flash are tied together. Really fun stuff.
One thing I really liked about this episode was that they introduced a metahuman who wasn't created by the accelerator accident. It opens up a lot of doors. And I continue to love high tightly Arrow and Flash are tied together. Really fun stuff.
From what I can find, Greg Berlanti and the CW execs are open to that possibility, but the CBS president wants them to stay separate.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01...oubtful-about-a-supergirlflasharrow-crossover
Personally, I'd rather they remain in separate universes, since it's pretty clear that Superman already exists in Supergirl's world, and that's pretty hard to reconcile with the CW-verse -- especially after this week, where the idea of metahumans not created by the STAR Labs accelerator accident is surprising to the characters. Of course, there's always the possibility of the Flash using his powers to cross into a parallel universe...
I agree with this with the caveat that it's exactly how I felt about keeping a Flash series separate from Arrow because I really enjoyed the non-super powered take on the show that Arrow was doing in it's first season. I'll be first to admit though, that I was totally wrong about that, the shared Arrow/Flash universe has been a great thing.
Catching up late, but...
- Team Arrow didn't tell Ollie about their Roy plan just to mess with him? Uh...
- I still dig Captain Lance, but dude, solitary confinement can be for prisoners' protection as much or more than punishment. So the fact that he "died" in prison is, like, totally the prison's fault.
- So Starling City really bought the whole Roy fake-out? Not even a fourth-wall leaning joke about how he's a foot shorter than the Arrow? And if he claimed to be the Arrow, who was he saying the red archer was?!
- (h/t to the IGN review) And what about that time in S1 the Arrow rescued Roy who was being held hostage on live TV? Is Starling City really so dumb as to not see through all this and pin Ollie as the Arrow after all?!
... And yet, in spite of all that, I still loved the ep.
- Team Arrow didn't tell Ollie about their Roy plan just to mess with him? Uh...
- I still dig Captain Lance, but dude, solitary confinement can be for prisoners' protection as much or more than punishment. So the fact that he "died" in prison is, like, totally the prison's fault.
- So Starling City really bought the whole Roy fake-out? Not even a fourth-wall leaning joke about how he's a foot shorter than the Arrow? And if he claimed to be the Arrow, who was he saying the red archer was?!
- (h/t to the IGN review) And what about that time in S1 the Arrow rescued Roy who was being held hostage on live TV? Is Starling City really so dumb as to not see through all this and pin Ollie as the Arrow after all?!
... And yet, in spite of all that, I still loved the ep.
Roy: "Well, the Arrow had grown so rich, he wanted to retire. He took me to his secret underground lair and he told me his secret. 'I am not the Arrow', he said. 'My name is Ryan; I inherited the hood from the previous Arrow, just as you will inherit it from me. The man I inherited it from is not the real Arrow either. His name was Cummerbund. The real Arrow has been retired fifteen months and living like a king in Patagonia.'"
More like four inches. And I doubt there are that many photos of the Arrow available for comparison.
Naturally he declined to give up his accomplices. Lance is the only one who knows who most of them are, and he knows Roy was Arsenal. So the performance was for others' benefit.
Ahh, obviously that was a clever ruse to make us think they were different people! He probably had his English butler dress up in his Arrow costume as a decoy! Or maybe it was a robot!
Since Captain Lance has gone all Colonel Kurtz it's going to be interesting how they play Joe and Barry asking him for help on finding out more about Dr. Wells on this week's Flash---or maybe the timing is still skewed off.
Felicity has lost both of her billionaires. 
Next week's preview looks very interesting, and scary.
Next week's preview looks very interesting, and scary.
So sad. 
How will Oliver ever get out of this?
This was the first time Olliecity ever made love. I see Colton Haynes is still in the opening credits.
How will Oliver ever get out of this?This was the first time Olliecity ever made love. I see Colton Haynes is still in the opening credits.
I think it costs too much to change the credits mid stream. 
I worry about how Diggle will get out of this one.
I worry about how Diggle will get out of this one.
This was a terrific episode for fans of Felicity. She was totally a lion here, standing up to Ra's, and she also got a steamy love scene. There were some shots where I was really glad I was watching in widescreen on Hulu rather than on my TV where the sides of the image would be cut off.
And now we know why Oliver was wearing the "Dark Archer" costume in those behind-the-scenes shots we saw a few weeks ago. Not that it wasn't pretty obvious.
Speaking of obvious, I can't believe Oliver, Maseo, and Tatsu didn't instantly figure out that the toxin was going to be smuggled in the food cart. I mean, duh!
They're just ordinary lower-third titles. They change the guest star and writer/director titles every week; it's no harder than it would be for you or me to edit a post in this thread. And there are some shows that do change their "regular" credits every week depending on who's in a particular episode; examples include Heroes and Daredevil. But there are others that keep the same credits throughout a season regardless of who's a no-show in a given episode.
The reason for not changing credits is not technical, but contractual. Credits reflect who get paid what, and that's all worked out in the contracts. Some actors are contracted to be paid only for the episodes where they appear, but series regulars are generally contracted for entire seasons at a time. Colton Haynes signed up to be a regular for two seasons of Arrow, which means he gets paid for two whole seasons, which means he's in the credits every week for two whole seasons, even in episodes where he doesn't appear.
There have been multiple cases of shows where an actor left before the end of the season but was still billed as a regular because their contract was for the entire season. The most extreme case of this is surely Gotham, which still lists Andrew Stewart-Jones and Victoria Cartagena as regulars even though their characters have not been seen since episodes 9 and 11 respectively.
Anyway,
And now we know why Oliver was wearing the "Dark Archer" costume in those behind-the-scenes shots we saw a few weeks ago. Not that it wasn't pretty obvious.
Speaking of obvious, I can't believe Oliver, Maseo, and Tatsu didn't instantly figure out that the toxin was going to be smuggled in the food cart. I mean, duh!
I think it costs too much to change the credits mid stream.
They're just ordinary lower-third titles. They change the guest star and writer/director titles every week; it's no harder than it would be for you or me to edit a post in this thread. And there are some shows that do change their "regular" credits every week depending on who's in a particular episode; examples include Heroes and Daredevil. But there are others that keep the same credits throughout a season regardless of who's a no-show in a given episode.
The reason for not changing credits is not technical, but contractual. Credits reflect who get paid what, and that's all worked out in the contracts. Some actors are contracted to be paid only for the episodes where they appear, but series regulars are generally contracted for entire seasons at a time. Colton Haynes signed up to be a regular for two seasons of Arrow, which means he gets paid for two whole seasons, which means he's in the credits every week for two whole seasons, even in episodes where he doesn't appear.
There have been multiple cases of shows where an actor left before the end of the season but was still billed as a regular because their contract was for the entire season. The most extreme case of this is surely Gotham, which still lists Andrew Stewart-Jones and Victoria Cartagena as regulars even though their characters have not been seen since episodes 9 and 11 respectively.
Anyway,
I've read that Roy will make at least one more appearance before season's end.
And that was the sole reason for Laurel to get a 30 sec appearance at the end in this episode. This scene could have easily gone into next weeks episode if not for an obligation to have her appear in a certain number of episodes if not all of them.
Actually I would say that it was the Felicity stuff that dragged this episode down. This episode should have been about Oliver accepting the League's offer and Thea's recovery, but instead most of the episode was devoted to Felicity crying and acting irrational (drugging Oliver? Really?) and the Olicity ship. I loved her character in the first two seasons of Arrow (and her guest appearances on Flash) when she was quirky and fun, but I'm really fed up with her constantly crying and pining over Oliver.
Where was the crying and pining? Pining means passively longing for something you can't have. She was totally proactive here. She insisted on accompanying Oliver, she stood up for him with Ra's, she told him she loved him and took him to bed, and she drugged him and tried to rescue him. Okay, there was some crying at the end with Laurel, but it was more than balanced by the rest.
This was a great episode. I bet there are a whole lot of very happy shippers today.
I was pretty sure this was coming after I saw the photos from the next Arrow/Flash crossover, but it was still a pretty big moment actually seeing Ollie join the League. I loved Felicity actually standing up to Ra's, that was a great scene.
I thought her drugging Ollie made perfect sense for the character.
I'm a big Ollicity shipper, so I was very happy they actually got together, although I do wonder how long it will last. I have to admit, since Sarah died I have been expecting them to get Oliver and Laurel together, since Green Arrow and Black Canary are a couple in the comics. Honestly, at this point the only reason they would get together is just to match the comics, so I'm glad they've resisted that.
Have we ever seen the woman who was with Ra's and was leading the ressurection ceremony for Thea? I didn't recognize her.
I am a little disappointed that they appear to be using Thea's resurrection as a way to wipe her memory of Ollie being the Arrow, I'm really hoping she gets all of her memories back, including that.
It was pretty obvious right from the start that the bioweapon was in the food cart.
I am curious to see how much "Al Sah-him" is actually going to cooperate with Ra's and The League. The preview tried to make it look like he was working for them now, but I wouldn't be surprised if was all part of a bigger plan Oliver has going.
I was pretty sure this was coming after I saw the photos from the next Arrow/Flash crossover, but it was still a pretty big moment actually seeing Ollie join the League. I loved Felicity actually standing up to Ra's, that was a great scene.
I thought her drugging Ollie made perfect sense for the character.
I'm a big Ollicity shipper, so I was very happy they actually got together, although I do wonder how long it will last. I have to admit, since Sarah died I have been expecting them to get Oliver and Laurel together, since Green Arrow and Black Canary are a couple in the comics. Honestly, at this point the only reason they would get together is just to match the comics, so I'm glad they've resisted that.
Have we ever seen the woman who was with Ra's and was leading the ressurection ceremony for Thea? I didn't recognize her.
I am a little disappointed that they appear to be using Thea's resurrection as a way to wipe her memory of Ollie being the Arrow, I'm really hoping she gets all of her memories back, including that.
It was pretty obvious right from the start that the bioweapon was in the food cart.
I am curious to see how much "Al Sah-him" is actually going to cooperate with Ra's and The League. The preview tried to make it look like he was working for them now, but I wouldn't be surprised if was all part of a bigger plan Oliver has going.
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