Arrow - Season 3
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I think Nyssa solved that problem for us when she demanded to see the body of her beloved and instead was shown a grave.
Initially I assumed the demand was to confirm Sara was really dead this time, but since learning of the Lazarus pit from this board I now think it was to assess if Sara was in good enough shape to bring her to the pit.
Since Nyssa didn't bother to dig her up, I assume that means once buried the person is too far gone.
Drat.
Initially I assumed the demand was to confirm Sara was really dead this time, but since learning of the Lazarus pit from this board I now think it was to assess if Sara was in good enough shape to bring her to the pit.
Since Nyssa didn't bother to dig her up, I assume that means once buried the person is too far gone.
Drat.
What if Barry brought her back from the past when he's saving his mum, and then Nyssa rams Old Sarah's soul down young Sarah's throat.
If the Demon is an inherited title, and the immortality is all shimsham, then there is no magic, and no Lazarus pit.
I gave myself a chubby thinking about Barry while trying to save his mother 13 years in the past breezes through Gotham and has an adventure there with young Jim and young Harvey.
14 year in the future, where Barry lives usually, almost everyone knows who killed the Waynes.
AWKAAAAAAAAARD!
If the Demon is an inherited title, and the immortality is all shimsham, then there is no magic, and no Lazarus pit.
I gave myself a chubby thinking about Barry while trying to save his mother 13 years in the past breezes through Gotham and has an adventure there with young Jim and young Harvey.
14 year in the future, where Barry lives usually, almost everyone knows who killed the Waynes.
AWKAAAAAAAAARD!
^Sarah is the Canary; Laurel is Black Canary.
I'm now feeling robbed that Ollie and Laurel didn't have a kid called Green Canary in Kingdom Come.
Well, given the time that's past, probable lack of enbalming, and the underground moisture present on any coastal city, I'm reasonably sure Sarah is a green Canary by now.
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I don't think Starling City is coastal, given that it's only a few hundred miles from Central City, which is basically St. Louis. It might be on the coast of a lake, perhaps, maybe standing in for Chicago.
TV DC has always been a bit ambiguous about the location of its fictional cities.
So true. However I think DC generally places its cities as analogues of existing ones. Metropolis is effectively New York, Gotham is Chicago, Coast City is San Francisco / LA, and so on. Recently I read some recent comics that placed Star / Starling City was an analogue to Seattle, but it seems that it's been placed in the Great Lakes, around Massachusetts, and in SoCal over the years as well.
In Arrow, map coordinates and a ZIP code place Starling where Seattle is supposed to be, but a visual map puts it around the Great Lakes. At the same time, the actual cityline has been portrayed by a number of large cities. So, the show is being purposefully vague as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_City_(comics)
Mark
In Arrow, map coordinates and a ZIP code place Starling where Seattle is supposed to be, but a visual map puts it around the Great Lakes. At the same time, the actual cityline has been portrayed by a number of large cities. So, the show is being purposefully vague as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_City_(comics)
Mark
I'm reading the Arrow: Season 2.5 and the Flash: Season Zero ongoings.
The Flash series had a rough beginning with a poor choice in artist (Phil Hester -- normally a dependable penciller but not for a tie-in book like this) but a decent enough story. The artist that followed Hester (his name escapes me) worked out much better and delivered a great Felicity Smoak in Central City story.
The Arrow book has been great fun right out of the gate. Solid stories set between seasons two and three of the show, nice artwork, and -- according to Marc Guggenheim -- each installment is officially canon (for whatever that's worth). Of the two series, Arrow 2.5 is the consistently better read.
I thought that Metropolis and Gotham were both meant to be New York surrogates, representing its brightest and darkest sides respectively -- sort of like if you put NYC through a "The Enemy Within"-style transporter accident. The 1966 TV series overtly represented Gotham City as a surrogate for NYC; its exteriors were represented by stock footage of NYC, and its locales, landmarks, mayor, governor, etc. all had names that were wordplays on the New York equivalents. Gotham, the current TV series, is filmed in New York City.
Of course, NYC does exist in the DC Universe, so DC's geographical reference sources have generally put Gotham City in New Jersey, and Metropolis in Delaware.
I guess the association of Gotham with Chicago comes mainly from Nolan using Chicago as a filming location in his movies. I don't think the connection existed before then.
There's crime and corruption everywhere.
Gotham's been used as a nickname for NYC for a long time.
http://www.nypl.org/blog/2011/01/25/so-why-do-we-call-it-gotham-anyway
http://www.nypl.org/blog/2011/01/25/so-why-do-we-call-it-gotham-anyway
Right, of course. I can't believe that slipped my mind. Just calling it Gotham is a dead giveaway that it's based on NYC. It's kind of like doing a fictional version of Chicago named "Windy City," or a fictional Cincinnati called "Queen City" -- elevating the nickname to the actual name.
That's always been my take on it.
The way I understand it is, Gotham = Gotham, NYC = NYC, SF = SF, Coast City = Coast City. These are separate geographic entities. The Teen Titans tower is located in San Francisco, which is different from Coast City.
Star City = Seattle
Central City = Minneapolis, Keystone = St. Paul
Coast City = San Francisco
Metropolis/Gotham = New York
But...there are versions of all these real world cities in the DCU as well.
I saw a fictional map once that made the U.S. slightly larger to accommodate all the extra cities.
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