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Arrow - Season 3
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The Roy killed Sarah fake out was such bull, it pissed me off. ONLY the audience knows that Sarah turned to the person who killed her and said, "what are you doing here?" So to include that in Roy's "dream" was clearly only done to manipulate the audience into thinking it was a true memory and makes absolutely no sense with the ultimate explanation of him substituting Sarah's for the police officer he killed. It was also quite the coincidence that Roy's manner of killing the police officer, which he then transferred over to his dream of how he killed Sarah, also just happened to match the "weird" arrow impact wounds that Sarah had, when Roy clearly didn't know in advance that Sarah had those weird wounds.
My 10 year old Nissan has at least 6 airbags.
Yeah, I laughed out loud when he got all indignant about that. They write him (and most of the characters) with very short term memories and a complete lack of self-awareness.
So, didn't Felicity make a big deal about how the arrow pattern in Sara wasn't consistent with what you'd normally see when fired from a bow, which was part of the evidence against Roy, only now with Cupid here it's almost certainly going to be her that killed Sara... with a bow.
Unless they're going for superpowered Cupid from the comics and she threw the arrows too, but why would she do that instead of just using her bow, and I'm pretty sure the angle of the arrows from a short woman and a taller man would be quite different. Hey, it might have been a good idea to get the police and their real forensics technicians involved instead of keeping Sara's death a secret from her dad, whose heart is totally not going to feel much worse after finding out his daughter's been dead and buried for a while and his other daughter and the Arrow lied to him about it.
^ I can't fault your logic re: Ollie's logic, though I imagine a strong and automatic sense of self-righteousness, right or wrong, is necessary to being a vigilante. But do we really need another black-clad archer, let alone one named "Cupid"?
I've been content to have the show simmer for a while, to contrast with the relentless roller-coaster of most of S2, but it seems unclear where this season is going, and what kind of Big Bad we'll get. The fact that Merlyn doesn't even hint at having any kind of plan isn't particularly encouraging, and now that Walter and Moira are gone (sure, the former's alive, but he's not exactly in the picture), and Laurel and Thea are training to kick butt, we're also rapidly running out of non-vigilante characters.
If any show's earned the benefit of the doubt, it's this one, but while the eps prior to this week have been fairly strong, it's too often easier to fall off a tightrope than to keep on, let alone keep climbing.
I've been content to have the show simmer for a while, to contrast with the relentless roller-coaster of most of S2, but it seems unclear where this season is going, and what kind of Big Bad we'll get. The fact that Merlyn doesn't even hint at having any kind of plan isn't particularly encouraging, and now that Walter and Moira are gone (sure, the former's alive, but he's not exactly in the picture), and Laurel and Thea are training to kick butt, we're also rapidly running out of non-vigilante characters.
If any show's earned the benefit of the doubt, it's this one, but while the eps prior to this week have been fairly strong, it's too often easier to fall off a tightrope than to keep on, let alone keep climbing.
They already singled out Cupid's arrows as having heart shaped pink arrowheads in the trailer. Something that was not evident in the arrows that killed Sara.
Oh, I didn't see the preview. So, there's yet another rogue archer on the loose in Starling?
If only they were friends with a skilled forensics scientist who already knows their secret identities and supports their mission and could pop over to Starling in a flash to help out with something like this. Oh, if only...
And yeah, keeping Sarah's death from Dete...Offi...Captain Lance is one of the worst "tension bulding" ideas they've done yet. Nyssa, of all people, was absolutely the voice of reason - though of course she backed down.
You know, Oliver really needs to do something about this. It's starting to become a trend, and sooner or later it'll start diluting his cachet.
Being "first" isn't going to cut it on its own, he needs to prune the competition.
I wasn't implying it didn't have airbags, I was just specifying which Audi it was. And yeah, even my small hatchback (VW Polo) that I got back '99 had two airbags.
Where was Laurel when Sara was shot? I thought she was nearby (in earshot, at least).
She was on the street at ground level a couple floors beneath Sarah and her attacker on the roof. She didn't hear it until Sarah fell.
OK, I couldn't remember.
Yeah it just bothered me that they had Roy's vision of killing Sarah mimic identically how it actually happened, when only the audience and the killer actually got to see it happen, leaving us to conclude that Roy must have been the killer. It makes it a cheap fake out that wasn't earned. Playing on audience expectations in a clever way is awesome (my favorite example "Not Penny's Boat"), but this one was a huge fail.
The seasons just beginning--I don't think this story arc is concluded yet.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure all of the stuff surrounding Sarah's death is going to be a big part of the season long arc.
As for the episode, I enjoyed it. It was cool getting to learn more about Ted Grant, and I thought the stuff with Roy was pretty good. I actually wasn't sure that Roy didn't kill Sarah, after all he was pretty out of control while on the Mirakuru, and we still don't know for sure that it won't have some kind of effect even after it's been removed from his system.
I'm not entirely sure, but I swore I saw the actress who plays Cupid in a crowd scene.
I do agree that the flashback stuff was the low point of the episode.
As for the episode, I enjoyed it. It was cool getting to learn more about Ted Grant, and I thought the stuff with Roy was pretty good. I actually wasn't sure that Roy didn't kill Sarah, after all he was pretty out of control while on the Mirakuru, and we still don't know for sure that it won't have some kind of effect even after it's been removed from his system.
I'm not entirely sure, but I swore I saw the actress who plays Cupid in a crowd scene.
I do agree that the flashback stuff was the low point of the episode.
I'm thinking that Roy has to have killed Sarah, possibly under some kind of mind control by Ra's or something. There's no way he could have dreamt about the exact dialogue that took place on the roof unless he was there. If it wasn't him, then it's a ridiculous and blatant oversight by the writers.
It's just a way to reuse the footage and to throw the viewers a red herring.
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