Arriving after all: "Fade In: The Making of Star Trek Insurrection" by Michael Piller

Whoa ? 95.00 dollars that's way too expensive for a Star trek book!

 

Yeah that price is just stupid. A quick google and the PDF is out there, everywhere.

 

Why is it?

 

I have to agree with Dimesdan here. There are Star Trek books out there that are equally if not more expensive. Like the new Encyclopedia being released soon. Fandoms in general have proven in the past they are willing to pay loads of money for things they otherwise wouldn't buy if a certain show's name wasn't stickered on it.

 

How so? I asked a question, not making a statement on my thoughts of the price of the book.

 

You know, that is totally my interpretation.... You're right, my bad.

 

To answer Dan's question some of us can't afford to buy Star trek books this expensive. That's why we get them from the library instead.

 

That just explains why you can't afford it, not why such a price isn't justified.

 

I also rather liked it. Then again, I rather liked ANYTHING at the time that wasn't either Borg or Dominion.

As to the price, I agree. It would have to be quite thick, four-color on slick paper throughout, and a Smyth-sewn (or side-sewn, or cleat-sewn) hardcover binding, to justify that price tag. I remember many years ago, spending a small fortune on a one-off copy of an out-of-print biography (of organist E. Power Biggs) from a division of University Microfilms, and I don't think it was any more than that.

At the International Printing Museum, we had a project a few years ago (it was well underway when I first signed on as a docent). The lead docent's late Uncle Ken wrote a fictionalized memoir of surgical residency at the hospital we now call County-USC. Doc and his crew printed the whole thing by letterpress, from thousands of pounds of type formes, cast on our Linotype and Ludlow machines, spending over four years (just working weekends, but in full view of every tour group that went through) on the project, from the first slugs being cast to the last batch of pages being shipped to the bookbinder. We sold the paperback edition for $25.

 

This is a great book, I definitely recommend finding a copy of it. It really takes some of the shine off of folks like Spiner and Stewart to learn how they treated the writers.

 

I have a book about making the movie Insurrection when the movie came out and it was Twenty five dollars. It has interviews with Micheal Westmore and the people who made the movie. The special effects they used. You might find a used copy on ebay.

 

That's a different book (possibly The Secrets of Star Trek Insurrection, by Terry Erdmann); this is one written by Michael Piller that was specifically about the writing of the movie and announced at the time of the movie's release but never published.

 

There's such a thing as pricing yourself out of the market. They could price it at $10,000.00 and lots of people could still afford it, but they wouldn't sell any copies. Furthermore, they'd alienate the very people who keep the franchise alive. Hmmmm, yeah I guess I still love Star Trek, but Star Wars is starting to look a lot more appealing...and did you see the trailer for Rogue One...?

 

I am aware of such things, what I was hoping for was a reason why @Reanok felt the price was unjustified in their opinion.

Yes I have, I fail to see the relivence of such a question on the conversation of the price of a Star Trek book.

 

Who still does that "you have to like Star Trek or Star Wars, you can't like both" stuff? It's not a zero sum game, no one is going to go "well Star Wars looks neat and this one book about a movie most of the fandom isn't keen on anyway is a really high price, better not like Star Trek anymore". And I don't mean "no one" in any sort of idiomatic sense, I am saying that I am entirely certain that not a single person on the entire planet will use the price of this one book as even a subconscious influence as to whether or not to participate in Star Trek fandom.

 

Are you guys kidding me? The point is that I'm not going to spend as much of my time on stuff that makes itself inaccessible to me. Obviously you can have multiple franchise interests, but Trek books don't have to be a part of my Trek interest if they price themselves out, and other merchandise from other franchises will get my dollars. And the more time I'm spending on others does translate to less of my money going into Trek.

 

Not in the slightest, if I ask a question, although I don't always expect an answer will be forthcoming, I won't ask something with the intention of not "listening" to it.

Good for you and cheers for clarifying your point.

 

Not everyone needs things explained for them so simply. Don't be a dick.

 

I beg your pardon? I thank you for something (given your original response to me made no sense what so ever) and you come out with that truly unneeded comment.