Are they still in the Local Group?

[David cgc]

Well, if that was your problem, you shouldn't have asked how I identified a specific one from it's appearance when there are "only four general types of galaxy." Only once I said so did you move the goalposts and say that the appearance didn't mean anything.

I'd be inclined to agree with you if they'd used a photo of the Orion nebula, or a picture of a moon of Jupiter for a nearby planet or some other obvious corner-cutting, but given that it's an appropriately distant galaxy, and they even did the rather trivial touch of reversing the image to represent seeing the far side of the galaxy, there's enough standing to accept that was where they were, in as much as it means a damn thing, anyway. Besides, they went to enough trouble to use one of the real Pegasus galaxies, and even showed the right one for the distance they quoted.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

That seems unlikely. If they can see the stars, they can triangulate their position well enough. Put together with the stellar type of their current system, and Hammond could find them. The stones are a massive advantage, too.

Has it ever been stated how fast Earth ship hyperdrives are? How long would it take to cover billions of light years? Months? Years? It would probably only be worthwhile to send a rescue ship if and when the Destiny folks got control of the ship and were able to point it back toward the Milky Way. That way, they could be on a steady, known course, which greatly increases the odds of a successful rescue.

If it takes Destiny "weeks" to traverse the void between galaxies, its FTL drive must still be pretty fast. How old did Rush say the ship was, 250,000 years or so?

 

[David cgc]

That's another thing. They've been consistently lowballing the estimates for how old the ship is. The oldest Milky Way stargate was said to be 50 million years old, so Destiny is probably older than that.

As for Earth hyperdrive, it's 3 million lightyears to Pegasus from the Milky Way.* With a ZPM, the Daedalus can make the trip in 4 days. Without, it took 18 days. That makes for a trip of either just over 5 weeks or half a year, depending on if rescuing Destiny is ZPM worthy, to catch up to them (if they're in the Sombrero Galaxy). Again, depending on the ability of the crew of Destiny to pinpoint their precise location and devise a coordinate or landmark system to communicate that location to a rescue ship, or find some sort of beacon to signal their location to the recovery ship, it would probably take longer to actually find the ship within the galaxy.

Incidentally, if Destiny is at the edge of the observable universe, it would take a mere 170 years to catch up to them, with ZPM. So, we have an upper limit on how long they'd have to wait for rescue.

*This is the distance to the Pegasus Dwarf Irregular Galaxy. The visual effects of Midway showed Pegasus as an irregular galaxy. Additionally, General Landry used that figure in the episode "The Return," since we've now stipulated the CGI team is a group of incompetents, cheats, and liars.

 

[Lindley]

In theory there's no reason Destiny couldn't be beyond the observable universe (as seen from Earth), actually. That seems unlikely in practice however.

 

[SG-17]

That's another thing. They've been consistently lowballing the estimates for how old the ship is. The oldest Milky Way stargate was said to be 50 million years old, so Destiny is probably older than that.

It is quite possible that the Beta Gate is the first Stargate ever built, but the ancients upgraded it at least once to meet galactic standards.

As for Earth hyperdrive, it's 3 million lightyears to Pegasus from the Milky Way.* With a ZPM, the Daedalus can make the trip in 4 days. Without, it took 18 days. That makes for a trip of either just over 5 weeks or half a year, depending on if rescuing Destiny is ZPM worthy, to catch up to them (if they're in the Sombrero Galaxy). Again, depending on the ability of the crew of Destiny to pinpoint their precise location and devise a coordinate or landmark system to communicate that location to a rescue ship, or find some sort of beacon to signal their location to the recovery ship, it would probably take longer to actually find the ship within the galaxy.

What they should of done was during the three months they were around the Obelisk Planet was triangulate the position of the star and relate it to Earth so that they would have place to set up a base of operations in the Unnamed Galaxy if it wasn't too far away to logistically reach with a ZPM powered Daedalus Class Ship.

 

[Brent]

Add more ZPMs and Asgard Hyperdrives can make it a lot faster, remember, Thor was able to get to Earth from his home galaxy in a matter of minutes! Asgards most advanced hyperdrive, plus multiple ZPMs would get them there in a hurry.

We already learned that they are already working on a second generation hyperdrive on Earth, so imagine if the first gen could get to Pegasus in 3 days with 1 ZPM (and it was 3 days btw with 1 zpm), then what could the second gen do with 1 or 2 or 3 ZPMs!

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Do they even have a ready supply of ZPMs? I didn't think those were easy to come by.

 

[The Wormhole]

^^They acquired two additional ZPMs in the Atlantis finale. Since Atlantis is now at Earth, and since season 6 is not canon it should still be at Earth, they won't need all three ZPMs at the city. No reason why they can't hook one up to the Hammond or the Daedalus or the Apollo, or send the Odyssey (which has its own ZPM anyway) and send it on a resecue mission.

Hell, if they used McKay's wormhole drive, than the Destiny crew could have been rescued before the midseason break.

 

[Tom]

^^They acquired two additional ZPMs in the Atlantis finale. Since Atlantis is now at Earth, and since season 6 is not canon it should still be at Earth, they won't need all three ZPMs at the city. No reason why they can't hook one up to the Hammond or the Daedalus or the Apollo, or send the Odyssey (which has its own ZPM anyway) and send it on a resecue mission.

Hell, if they used McKay's wormhole drive, than the Destiny crew could have been rescued before the midseason break.

Also makes you wonder when earth will be able to make there own ZPM's given all the access to Asgard adn Ancient knowledge they have. Kinda scary to think of all the advance tech earth has now, and the public still does not know anything!

 

[SG-17]

Was it ever stated if the ZPM that was powering the chair was destroyed when the dart kamikazied the warehouse in Area 51?

 

[SG-17]

Was it ever stated if the ZPM that was powering the chair was destroyed when the dart kamikazied the warehouse in Area 51?

 

[Lindley]

Kinda scary to think of all the advance tech earth has now, and the public still does not know anything!

I've thought for a while that Earth's ridiculous jump in technology was part of the problem with the SG shows lately. It was more fun when they were making do with M-16s and the occasional captured staff.

 

[Meredith]

Kinda scary to think of all the advance tech earth has now, and the public still does not know anything!

I've thought for a while that Earth's ridiculous jump in technology was part of the problem with the SG shows lately. It was more fun when they were making do with M-16s and the occasional captured staff.

Indeed, when it was OUR ingeniuty it was cool, when we started the robbing the graves of the ancients and later the Asguard.... LAME.......

 

[The Wormhole]

Was it ever stated if the ZPM that was powering the chair was destroyed when the dart kamikazied the warehouse in Area 51?

I think the ZPM for that would actuall have been plugged in at the outpost in Antarctica.

 

[SG-17]

See that is what confuses me. When they said they moved the control chair to Area 51 I assumed that they moved the weapons platform and drones too.

 

[The Wormhole]

See that is what confuses me. When they said they moved the control chair to Area 51 I assumed that they moved the weapons platform and drones too.

I asssumed it was a set-up similar to what they had an the alternate reality in The Road Not Taken, where the chair was in Are 51, but the drones were still in Antarctica.

 

[bryce]

My feeling is that the only thing that makes sense is that Destiny - hyperdrive or no...is still pretty fast (I mean to just a galactic void in a matter of weeks...yeah, that's fast)....

And even subtracting for stops - say, 1/2 the time it's been active - Destiny has been traveling very fast, for very long...so even Earth's fastest hyperdrive would take....maybe millennia, at least, to catch up...?

Imagine spending 25 to 50 million years - at least - traveling at near hyperdrive speeds...in the time, Destiny has covered some serious ground between here and Earth...

(In the end - of the show - I'd like to see Destiny learn that they have circumnavigated the universe...and come back around to the Milky Way again, lol...)

 

[Brent]

In this past episode Young said they were a billion light years from home.

I'm not sure if he meant that literally, or just to prove they are really far away, but as it was, it could possibly be taken literally. It's the best info we got right now though for how far they are out.

 

[The Wormhole]

^^Rush said in the pilot they were "several billion light-years from home." I'd say there's more accuracy to that statement.

 

[Ensign_Redshirt]

Sombrero Galaxy. It's a shame they never said that in dialogue.

Can we start calling the aliens "Sombreroids"? Please?

Ah, screw it, I'll now call them Sombreroids and it will stick. Just like Rush's three stooges.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000760/Scott: So what didn't they go for?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000760/Young: The name I suggested.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0850102/Scott: For the ship?

Young: Yeah.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0850102/Scott:: Yeah, sir, we can't call it the Sombreroprise.

Young: Why not?