I can’t take more Bakula. Might be a dealbreaker for me.
Spoilers Are they going to re-cast Archer?
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I very highly doubt Archer will appear in DSC. But, for the sake of argument, if he did: I don't think they'd have to recast. They could just have Scott Bakula guest-star in an episode. Dye his hair and you're done. He doesn't look that much older than he did in ENT.
Honestly if Scott Bakula of all people has a cameo I'd LOL so hard.
Even the fanboys aren't clamoring for more Archer.
The Red Angel proved that rather neatly.
That was meant to be Archer as well. Or future Spock, or Q, or Picard, or Vash…
The fanwank in the novels is bad enough, but the theories are next-level.
I wouldn't mind.
I mean, I'm certainly no "fanboy" (whatever the hell that means), but ENT is still my favorite Trek series of all time and I have no problem whatsoever with Archer making a return appearance.
Same. I just love the implication that those of us who like ENT are some kind of rabid "fanboys", too.I wouldn't mind.
I mean, I'm certainly no "fanboy" (whatever the hell that means), but ENT is still my favorite Trek series of all time and I have no problem whatsoever with Archer making a return appearance.
I think it would be really cool to see one of Trek's big names make a cameo. It would encourage me to tune in. If Tuvok somehow got worked in...I wouldn't mind.
I mean, I'm certainly no "fanboy" (whatever the hell that means), but ENT is still my favorite Trek series of all time and I have no problem whatsoever with Archer making a return appearance.
Always bit disappointed how anybody could ever imagine Archer and Future Guy being one and the same to be honest.
Future Guy uses genetic engineering on the Suliban, and generally pollutes the 22nd Century with stealth (read: cloaking device) technology. Archer like everyone else on Trek is a scientist of course. But face it, he's a glorified test-pilot and barely a warp engineer at best, mostly off of his Father's genius. I don't think redesigning a species is his bag. He's also a moralising boy scout. Even when committing piracy, he's still weighing heavily in favour of good deeds versus bad.
Future Guy's agenda at various points involved destabilising the Klingon Empire, and ensuring the Enterprise NX-01's mission ended prematurely. Not sure what would link both of these to Archer. The latter's a possibility, because - if successful - he'd be at home when the Xindi probe arrives... but what about causing First Contact with the Klingons? Or other crimes we presume the Suliban did with their tech advantages that came from the future?
Reveal who the guy is, and use him as a way the Discovery try to get home from the 28th Century... (in theory)
I can see how that could work. And have zero to do with Archer, unless it diverts them to the 2150s along the way.
Future Guy uses genetic engineering on the Suliban, and generally pollutes the 22nd Century with stealth (read: cloaking device) technology. Archer like everyone else on Trek is a scientist of course. But face it, he's a glorified test-pilot and barely a warp engineer at best, mostly off of his Father's genius. I don't think redesigning a species is his bag. He's also a moralising boy scout. Even when committing piracy, he's still weighing heavily in favour of good deeds versus bad.
Future Guy's agenda at various points involved destabilising the Klingon Empire, and ensuring the Enterprise NX-01's mission ended prematurely. Not sure what would link both of these to Archer. The latter's a possibility, because - if successful - he'd be at home when the Xindi probe arrives... but what about causing First Contact with the Klingons? Or other crimes we presume the Suliban did with their tech advantages that came from the future?
Reveal who the guy is, and use him as a way the Discovery try to get home from the 28th Century... (in theory)
I can see how that could work. And have zero to do with Archer, unless it diverts them to the 2150s along the way.
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Archer made tough calls and struggled with them. He made mistakes, but he was a good person. There is really no way to make him Future Guy without it being stupid or insulting on some level, to be honest.
Someone else would have had to have built a temporal chamber in the past on a Suliban planet or Sulibia itself.
Future guy can't send back people or stuff. Nothing physical. Only conversation and information.
From the 28th century, Archer is sending digital textbooks to upskill the Suliban. Maybe he started gifting the Suliban new better science every 20 to 50 years, starting from the 17th century?
Self cleaning?
The Suliban would make perfect pasties if Archer was aware that their sun was going to go nova shortly after they had outlived their usefulness; depending on how far up stream his plans went.
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Anything's possible in Star Trek. Everything BUT this! 
Anyway... it was obvious Future Guy kept his appearance hidden, because he was Rommie. Events from Star Trek 2009, which supposedly affect the upcoming Picard show, might actually make Future Guy's motives all the more interesting too.
Anyway... it was obvious Future Guy kept his appearance hidden, because he was Rommie. Events from Star Trek 2009, which supposedly affect the upcoming Picard show, might actually make Future Guy's motives all the more interesting too.
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They wouldn't have to recast Archer. Bakula works for CBS already, he's the absolutely easiest person to force onto the show ("Hey Scott, here's the Season 6 contract. By the way, it stipulates that you need to do one episode of that Star Trek show in order to cross-promote.").
It would be crazy to learn that the bad guy was a respected former Captain and President gone mad (temporal psychosis?). I've speculated before that the 28th century (where the probe was redesigned and Control came from, not where Gabrielle live or necessarily where the Discovery crew go) is on the tail-end of a "temporal wild west" era, where multiple temporal invasions originate (the Tox Uhtat and Vorgons a century before, Future Guy and the Na'Kuhl Nazis), and the Federation and such get their act together and start heavily policing the timeline in the 29th century (Braxton and the Relativity), and a bit more delicately by the 31st century (Daniels and his friends).
It would be crazy to learn that the bad guy was a respected former Captain and President gone mad (temporal psychosis?). I've speculated before that the 28th century (where the probe was redesigned and Control came from, not where Gabrielle live or necessarily where the Discovery crew go) is on the tail-end of a "temporal wild west" era, where multiple temporal invasions originate (the Tox Uhtat and Vorgons a century before, Future Guy and the Na'Kuhl Nazis), and the Federation and such get their act together and start heavily policing the timeline in the 29th century (Braxton and the Relativity), and a bit more delicately by the 31st century (Daniels and his friends).
Perhaps they could recast Porthos instead. Future guy turns out to be him in a robot suit, Scrappy Doo style 
Even I would draw the line at that.Perhaps they could recast Porthos instead. Future guy turns out to be him in a robot suit, Scrappy Doo style
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