Are there too many white people in Star Trek?

[Mudd]

There's no reason to assume that nations don't exist in Picard's time.

American states are sort of quasi-nations.

Statistically speaking? Yes, there are way too many white people in Trek.

We're more likely going to have to get over the unscientific social construct of "white people" and race to get along than we are to discard nations.

 

[RAMA]

Yes

 

[RandyS]

No. There can never be enough white people.

Particularly men.

Although white women are welcome too. Particularly those wearing spandex catsuits, or, even better, miniskirts.

 

[Nyotarules]

Which kind of makes sense, the world is being rapidly globalized and americanized. When I travel, I see people from all over the world adapting the American culture and the American version of the English language.

In the Star Trek universe World War Three would take care of that. The British assumed their culture empire would last forever as well. In 100 years the influence might well be Indian or Chinese. The Americanisation of Earth in Star Trek is down to the narrow bias of the writers, the show is an American concept. Hopefully that 1960's cultural bias will be gone in a 2017 show. But I doubt it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Hopefully that 1960's cultural bias will be gone in a 2017 show. But I doubt it.

Yeah, probably a few nods to the world outside of America but that's about it.

 

[Nyotarules]

Yeah, probably a few nods to the world outside of America but that's about it.

Yeah the cultural climate of the USA is not conducive to accepting they won't be the big cheese for forever. Empires never learn from the mistakes of other empires.

 

[GabyBee]

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[Thowra]

I grew up with TOS.

Uhura, Chekhov, Sulu, Dr Mbenga. Black admirals (in charge). All equal.

I thought it was normal (I look back and see how new is was), but at the time, I thought that a kid

 

[Thowra]

I can't edit my above post!

At the time, I thought it was normal for so many different races and colours to work together equally. It shaped my views.

 

[Six of Twelve]

I can't edit my above post!

At the time, I thought it was normal for so many different races and colours to work together equally. It shaped my views.

You can't edit as a Newbie. Don't worry, you'll get that ability soon

 

[Mudd]

In the Star Trek universe World War Three would take care of that. The British assumed their culture empire would last forever as well. In 100 years the influence might well be Indian or Chinese. The Americanisation of Earth in Star Trek is down to the narrow bias of the writers, the show is an American concept. Hopefully that 1960's cultural bias will be gone in a 2017 show. But I doubt it.

It's always been an American show aimed primarily at American viewers. Having an international following has been great for it, I guess, but I've never understood how non-Americans get past the fact that at its core Trek is California Uber Alles.

The studio is glad to get the international money from Netflix, of course, but this show is being launched and designed for one reason: to build up CBS All-Access - and as that's a domestic outlet, the show will be pitched to the domestic audience. Again.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You can't edit as a Newbie. Don't worry, you'll get that ability soon

Along with telepathy and flying

 

[GabyBee]

I guess, but I've never understood how non-Americans get past the fact that at its core Trek is California Uber Alles.

Because at the core of Star Trek is the belief and hope that the future holds Humanity's best days. Science fiction shows/movies that offer a future version of Earth do so almost exclusively from a lens of a dystopia. I am an "international" viewer in the sense that I was born and raised in Spain, and first introduced to Star Trek there, though now live in the U.S. and still love it as a Spaniard living here. The message of hope for a better future is a pretty universal thing across all of Humanity; not just for Californians who do disgusting things like put avocado on pizza.

 

[Mudd]

So...in the 23rd century, you'll all be Americans. With accents and surnames from around the world. Optimism!

 

[GabyBee]

So...in the 23rd century, you'll all be Americans.

Tell that to Chekov. Russia invented Americ-..... fuck, is this all part of Putin's grand strategy?

 

[Tenacity]

Yeah the cultural climate of the USA is not conducive to accepting they won't be the big cheese for forever

Never say die.

 

[Nyotarules]

So...in the 23rd century, you'll all be Americans. With accents and surnames from around the world. Optimism!

I'd rather start WW4....

 

[psCargile]

Jayla is white.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Jayla is white.

Bicolored. Maybe an off shoot of the Cherons.

 

[Kor]

Earth culture of the 24th century should have a much stronger Asian influence, like in Firefly.

Kor