Are the Star Trek Discovery cancellation rumors true?

[Midquest]

What I don't understand is that I'd have thought that, to entertain the possibility that Discovery might be canceled, we'd first need the barest possible hint--a single, lonely viable hint--that this could happen. And...we don't. Mount's tweet isn't evidence: the show is done filming; of course he might be unemployed. And citing Nerdrotic is the digital version of hearing flat-earthers talking in the produce aisle of the grocery store and going home and telling your partner that the Earth might be flat. Shouldn't the first rule of sharing hearsay be that something about the source need be credible before sending it out into the digital ether?

 

[marsh8472]

Ok so let's look at One Dollar's stats on TV TIme: 6.78/10 average series rating compared to Discovery 9.02/10. One Dollar has 2,930 people tracking the show while Discovery has 187,814. There's no comparison.

Why would CBS All Access cancel Discovery, their most popular show? As I explained a month ago on the Future of Trek forum, they won't cancel it. Shows are cancelled based on the performance of other shows on the same network. Discovery compared to Game of Thrones doesn't really matter. Discovery compared to The Good Fight, One Dollar, Tell Me A Story, and whatever other shows they have on CBS All Access does matter.

That's true but a lot more money goes into Discovery than "One Dollar". If the subscriber count does not meet expectations then cancellation is a real possibility. Discovery was renewed for a second season when it was about a month into Season 1. We're alittle over 2 weeks away from that bench mark. Yesterday's episode was not encouraging. It even took a noticeable hit at TV Time. I'll just be the contrarian here and say there will probably not be a Season 3 renewal regardless if whether the rumor is true or not.

 

[Tuskin38]

Season 2 was announced on October 23, 2017, a month after Season 1 started (September 24), 2 days after Episode 6 aired.

That's true but a lot more money goes into Discovery than "One Dollar". If the subscriber count does not meet expectations then cancellation is a real possibility. Discovery was renewed for a second season when it was about a month into Season 1. We're alittle over 2 weeks away from that bench mark. Yesterday's episode was not encouraging. It even took a noticeable hit at TV Time. I'll just be the contrarian here and say there will probably not be a Season 3 renewal regardless if whether the rumor is true or not.

I'll have this post on stand by to quote once it's renewed.

 

[Amasov]

I interpreted that tweet as Mount and Peck are done filming on season 2; hence their unemployment.

 

[Casas9425]

I don’t believe it’ll be renewed either. I always felt it was a bad idea to put a show based on Star Trek, which is a franchise that has been somewhat crippled, behind a pay wall. The amount of money that they’re spending on this show seems absurd.

 

[Campe]

You see, it has been a Bad Robot project from the beginning. It was made under the Paramount/Bad Robot licence, which is why everything looks different - it's not Prime Universe, and it even has to be 25% different in tone as part of the contract.

So, what you're saying is that CBS and all of the production houses involved in the making of Star Trek: Discovery are actually secretly working under the Paramount/Bad Robot license. Even after CBS split off from Paramount and owns the rights to TV Trek while Paramount owns the rights to movie Trek and there can (apparently) be no crossover between the two.

But there is.

"Norman, coordinate..."

 

[Tuskin38]

Then they put the season 2 opener out on youtube. who knows

Episode 1 of Season 1 was also free. Next.

By having a reason for not watching it.

They're not going to rate the episode if they're not watching it.

Well, sane people wouldn't.

I don’t believe it’ll be renewed either. I always felt it was a bad idea to hide a show based on Star Trek, which is a franchise that has been somewhat crippled, behind a pay wall. The amount of money that they’re spending on this show seems absurd.

It's not hiding, its very easily accessible around the world.

 

[DigificWriter]

People like the OP don't care about fact.

All they care about is regurgitating BS and then acting like the people who don't buy into their nonsense are the ones who are crazy.

 

[Mechanoid1]

The fans of STD are a small pack of bullies, ignoring the truth. Discovery should be cancelled because it is a botched series. The writers are a bunch of prime time Liars, cannon Atheists.
Go to Youtube and see what the real majority of Star Trek fans have to say about DISCO. Not just the 150 always clicking 9 or 10 have to say here at this bbs.
Dont be afraid to speak the truth. CBS needs to fix this or sell it to someone else that actualy has passion for the franchise.
God I so much wanted this to be a hit last year, and I tried to like it. You really cant just put lipstick on a pig.

 

[marsh8472]

I know I predicted it would only last 2 seasons somewhere on this site

 

[fireproof78]

Go to Youtube and see what the real majority of Star Trek fans have to say about DISCO. Not just the 150 always clicking 9 or 10 have to say here at this bbs.

Neither is an accurate representation. It's confirmation bias either way.

The fans of STD are a small pack of bullies, ignoring the truth. Discovery should be cancelled because it is a botched series.

CBS doesn't seem to think it's botched as they keep throwing money after it.

Actually, you know what, that all makes sense. CBS is throwing good money after bad on Discovery in order to devalue Star Trek so they can sell it for way more than it's worth. It's all so obvious!

 

[MakeshiftPython]

I don’t believe it’ll be renewed either. I always felt it was a bad idea to hide a show based on Star Trek, which is a franchise that has been somewhat crippled, behind a pay wall. The amount of money that they’re spending on this show seems absurd.

Welcome to the 21st century, a time when more and more people are willing to pay ten bucks to subscribe to a streaming platform for a month, where they can watch any show literally on demand.

Truthfully, people have a lot more easy access to Trek than they did in 1966. Had you missed out on the first airing of “The Man Trap”, there was no other option to try to watch it other than wait indefinitely for the network or affiliate to play a rerun of it, and at a time that would be convenient for you. Then there’s overseas, who all had to wait YEARS before their networks were able to air Trek episodes, assuming their networks actually did.

“Crippled” is the last word I’d use to describe worldwide access Discovery.

 

[Casas9425]

Welcome to the 21st century, a time when more and more people are willing to pay ten bucks to subscribe to a streaming platform for a month, where they can watch any show literally on demand.

Truthfully, people have a lot more easy access to Trek than they did in 1966. Had you missed out on the first airing of “The Man Trap”, there was no other option to try to watch it other than wait indefinitely for the network or affiliate to play a rerun of it, and at a time that would be convenient for you. Then there’s overseas, who all had to wait YEARS before their networks were able to air Trek episodes, assuming their networks actually did.

“Crippled” is the last word I’d use to describe worldwide access Discovery.

I don’t buy that. Netflix, Amazon and Hulu have a ton of content, not just one show.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

I don’t buy that.

How come? Through All Access in the US and Netflix internationally, Star Trek has never been more accessibly available than in any time in its history.

Netflix, Amazon and Hulu have a ton of content, not just one show.

Um, there's plenty of content on CBSAA as well, whether original or old catalog titles from the network. DISCOVERY is just their most prolific. When I subscribed to CBSAA, I didn't have only access to "just one show".

And there will be more original content in the coming years. Don't forget, Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu all started off with old catalog titles before they started cranking out original content.

 

[Casas9425]

The shows on CBS are awful, unless you enjoy endless boring cop shows.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

The shows on CBS are awful, unless you enjoy endless boring cop shows.

That's your opinion, man. [/El Duderino]

For what it's worth, I don't like cop shows either. But I am enjoying THE GOOD WIFE and MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I interpreted that tweet as Mount and Peck are done filming on season 2; hence their unemployment.

That’s because your brain is still working correctly.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

The fans of STD are a small pack of bullies, ignoring the truth. Discovery should be cancelled because it is a botched series. The writers are a bunch of prime time Liars, cannon Atheists.
Go to Youtube and see what the real majority of Star Trek fans have to say about DISCO. Not just the 150 always clicking 9 or 10 have to say here at this bbs.
Dont be afraid to speak the truth. CBS needs to fix this or sell it to someone else that actualy has passion for the franchise.
God I so much wanted this to be a hit last year, and I tried to like it. You really cant just put lipstick on a pig.

Infraction for trolling. Comments to PM.

 

[Campe]

Go to Youtube and see what the real majority of Star Trek fans have to say about DISCO.

• The world's population is approximately 7.7 billion people
• Star Trek's most popular film is the 2009 film. It sold, domestically 34.6 million tickets (Now, people saw the film multiple times. I cannot deny that. Its difficult to do the math to estimate that number so I'm leaving that as a caveat.) and made $385.7 million globally
• Star Trek's highest point in the Nielsen ratings was Fall 1991-Summer 1992 where The Next Generation averaged 11 million viewers
• Its lowest point was season four of Star Trek: Enterprise where it averaged 2.9 million viewers
• Discovery's only entry into Nielsen ratings with "The Vulcan Hello" came in at 9.6 million viewers
• As of August 2018, CBS All Access had 2.5 million viewers
• As of just a few days ago, CBS All Access saw a 50% growth over the past year (actual numbers were not given)
• The YouTube video the OP posted has 97,745 views
• Nerdrotic, the channel it is posted on has 36,398 subscribers
• Midnight's Edge, one of the more vocal critics of Discovery has 97,636 subscribers
• The latest video Midnight's Edge posted on Discovery has 5,439 views
• The Midnight's Edge video focusing on Discovery with the largest audience, posted last August has 997,353 viewers
• Just as one cannot say that the 2.5 million viewers who had subscriptions to CBSAA in August were watching Discovery and were fans, one cannot say that the 1 million views of the largest ME video were all (1) unique and (2) those with a negative perception of the show

Still, I have a hard time agreeing that anything on YouTube is a "real majority."

Except among the YouTube population.

Viewing that particular video.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I've seen a bunch of cancellation rumors flying around about this show that spark from a tweet from Anson Mount https://twitter.com/ansonmount/status/1089410129080967170 .

The rumor is analyzed here:

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I think it makes sense that it would be cancelled because of the section 31 series and Picard series. I find it highly unlikely that they would have 3 running star trek series at once.

This is based on a site with a known grudge against the show deliberately misinterpreting an actor's expression of regret that filming was over, something which the actor has subsequently clarified. There's no substance, and if there was we'd get an announcement about it eventually, so this thread serves no purpose. The same rumors have also been posted in several other threads around the forum at the time they actually happened (and were just as quickly shown to be inaccurate).

In the meantime it's being used to rile people on both sides of the debate up and start fights (not saying that was your intention) so I'm shutting this down.