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Are the Blish novelizations canon?

I would have been fine with Sam and his family or Spock being blinded, but using both robbed them of significance. Pick one and run with it. Kirk's family didn't really add much to the story other than a reason for him to be pissed for 50 minutes. Spock's blindness was a cheat and half-assed, but if the episode were more focused on that and had a "on the road to recovery" ending rather than the "secret magical eyelid" then it would have been acceptable. But I'm not a TV producer under the gun to get a problematic episode fixed in time for shooting.
 
So much was dumb about that whole subplot:

  • How did McCoy try the entire EM spectrum against the creatures yet somehow miss ultraviolet?
  • Why expose Spock to intense UV and not provide any form of eye protection?
  • How do both Spock and McCoy forget the Vulcan inner eyelid exists?
  • How is UV supposed to penetrate Deneva's ozone layer, let alone get inside buildings?
 
But the rest of the final episode was a complete mess and made no damn sense.
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So much was dumb about that whole subplot:
  • How did McCoy try the entire EM spectrum against the creatures yet somehow miss ultraviolet?
  • Why expose Spock to intense UV and not provide any form of eye protection?
  • How do both Spock and McCoy forget the Vulcan inner eyelid exists?
  • How is UV supposed to penetrate Deneva's ozone layer, let alone get inside buildings?
Don't mince words, Christopher; what do you really think?:p

Seriously, though, Carabastos was not a science fiction writer. Star Trek was the beginning and end of his genre work. For that matter, neither were Roddenberry, Coon, or Fontana. Nobody who worked on that script had the background in physics or physiology to realize how preposterous it was to first miss UV entirely, then have it work on an infected host, then have it work on infected hosts inside buildings.

But then again, it's also a rather preposterous notion to assume that sterilizing the surface of the blastoneurons' planet of origin would solve the problem: if they "overflow" (Blish's word, as I recall) each planet, then by the time they got to Deneva, the overwhelming bulk of the community would be located in places other than the origin planet. And there was no indication of any sort of "queen" or "mother creature" or "central brain."
 
Seriously, though, Carabastos was not a science fiction writer. Star Trek was the beginning and end of his genre work. For that matter, neither were Roddenberry, Coon, or Fontana. Nobody who worked on that script had the background in physics or physiology to realize how preposterous it was to first miss UV entirely, then have it work on an infected host, then have it work on infected hosts inside buildings.

That's what Kellam De Forest and Harvey P. Lynn and all of Roddenberry's science advisors were for. Heck, Star Trek was virtually unique for its era in actually having scientific consultants advising on the scripts, which is why it even had warp drive instead of just using rockets to travel between stars like virtually any other '60s show would've done. On the whole, its scientific plausibility was light years better than anything else in contemporary TV, because it did have consultants. So they really dropped the ball on this one.


But then again, it's also a rather preposterous notion to assume that sterilizing the surface of the blastoneurons' planet of origin would solve the problem: if they "overflow" (Blish's word, as I recall) each planet, then by the time they got to Deneva, the overwhelming bulk of the community would be located in places other than the origin planet. And there was no indication of any sort of "queen" or "mother creature" or "central brain."

I said it was better than what we got. "Better" does not mean "perfect," it just means "less bad." Which, with an episode this terrible, is not really saying much.
 
The 1991 omnibus editions can still be picked up used. They're the ones I picked up when I wanted to have all of the adaptations in print in one place (although they're missing the two Harry Mudd adaptations).

I still find the individual collections in used book stores and recommend them for the various covers over a giant omnibus.

Having said that: James Blish's Star Trek Omnibus

Thanks guys. Just ordered the three 1991 omnibus editions on eBay. :beer:
 
And of course, today, you wouldn't need Kellam de Forest (up until less than a minute ago, I wasn't aware that he's a person, or that he was, at last report, still alive; I'd always assumed the name referred to a think-tank) to tell you that high intensity UV was a bad idea; you pick any random eight-year-old, and he or she would be able to tell you what high intensity UV does to the human body.

Ain't 20:20 hindsight wonderful? :p
 
So much was dumb about that whole subplot:
  • How did McCoy try the entire EM spectrum against the creatures yet somehow miss ultraviolet?
  • Why expose Spock to intense UV and not provide any form of eye protection?
  • How do both Spock and McCoy forget the Vulcan inner eyelid exists?
  • How is UV supposed to penetrate Deneva's ozone layer, let alone get inside buildings?

The easiest way around all that would have been to postulate a fictional type of radiation that kills the parasite without harming the host. It would go through walls and be like kryptonite for the alien. McCoy didn't think of this radiation at first because it doesn't occur in nature. It has to be artificially generated. The show invented delta rays; they could invent this.
 
I just want to point out that at least The "Vegan Hegemony" appeared in a poster timeline thingie and got a bit of an expanded explanation.
 
Sure, that made it more personal -- although it's overkill having it come right after "City on the Edge of Forever." Kirk would've been a basket case after losing the love of his life and his brother and sister-in-law consecutively.

But the rest of the final episode was a complete mess and made no damn sense. The Blish version avoided most of the stuff that was stupidest in the aired version.

Kirks stoicism over Sam figures greatly in my long held head-canon ( effed up seriously by ST-2009) that Kirk was an orphan and self-made man. Sam was a half-brother that Kirk was never close to.
 
So much was dumb about that whole subplot:

  • How did McCoy try the entire EM spectrum against the creatures yet somehow miss ultraviolet?
  • Why expose Spock to intense UV and not provide any form of eye protection?
  • How do both Spock and McCoy forget the Vulcan inner eyelid exists?
  • How is UV supposed to penetrate Deneva's ozone layer, let alone get inside buildings?

The easiest way around all that would have been to postulate a fictional type of radiation that kills the parasite without harming the host. It would go through walls and be like kryptonite for the alien. McCoy didn't think of this radiation at first because it doesn't occur in nature. It has to be artificially generated. The show invented delta rays; they could invent this.

If only someone had recently written a post about "Operation - Annihilate!" and perhaps suggested ways to make it seem more plausible.

I quote from post number 128 on page 7 of: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/tos-chronology.304218/page-7

"In 1913 it was discovered that the Earth has an atmospheric layer which adsorbs a lot of ultra violent ultraviolet radiation from the sun. The highest intensity ultraviolet rays are adsorbed by nitrogen in the atmosphere. The types of ultraviolet which can penetrate nitrogen gas are UV-A, UV-B, and A UV-C. Most UV-A reaches the surface of Earth, but only a little UV-B, and none of the deadliest UV-C gets through the Ozone layer. At some wavelengths of UV-B there are hundreds of millions of times as many rays from the Sun at the top of the atmosphere than reach the ground."

"At 72 miles above Deneva, the "ultraviolet satellites" are above the height of the ozone layer on Earth. So the "ultraviolet satellites" should produce light in the UV-A spectrum so that most of it will reach the surface of Deneva."

"The ultraviolet and possibly visible light destroys the creatures, freeing the Denevans."

"I wonder how the Denevan who flew his ship into the sun killed the creature.light wouldn't b penetrate the hull of his h ship, and the windows might not be transparent to ultraviolet light."

"Apparently enough of the visible light and ultraviolet light is reflected from various surfaces to reach the creatures hiding the shadows and kill them. And the creatures that were outside during the dark night would be overwhelmed by the sudden burst of bright light."

"But what about the creatures hiding inside.the bodies of humans? Wouldn't they be shielded from the light by the flesh of the humans they inhabit? When I ride in a car and can turn my face toward the sun and close by eyes I see red light through my eyelids, and when the car passes into shade I see blue instead of red. So if the creatures have tendrils in the upper layers of human skin those tendrils will be burned by light penetrating it."

"On May 1, 2020, I found that the flashlight of my phone is bright enough to light up my finger when it is over the light. My finger glows red. Thus some light can penetrate about half an inch or 1.5 centimeters of flesh. 21st century humans usually have bare heads and hands when outdoors, though I tend to cover up more than most, and TOS era people don't usually wear hats and gloves outdoors."

"So humans controlled by the creatures, working outdoors in space ship yards at night when the creatures don't expect any light, would suddenly have their hands and heads flooded with light, killing the tendrils in their heads and hands, which might set off a cascading systems failure leading to death for the rest of the creature. killing the rest of each creature. If most of the creatures on the planet were inside humans working outside at night, most of them might die, and thus the rest of the creatures might die off since they were part of a super creature that might not survive having the majority of its cells die."

"Possibly the creatures were biological weapons designed to be seeded on a planet, drive the inhabitants to insanity and death, and then be killed off by ultraviolet satellites so the planet could be colonized. And possibly some of the creatures got loose and have been infecting planets every since. Note that the times between planetary infections seem to vary widely. After all the natives of a planet died in madness, a few of the creatures may survive infecting wildlife and eventually infect space travelers who visit the planet. And possibly the creatures were programmed to die when they sensed that their hosts were seeing bright light, explaining how the Denevan pilot was freed from his creature inside the protective hull of his spaceship."

"It is uncertain that all of the creatures are dead. Possibly a few creatures survived, infected various Denevan animals, and multiplied enough to form a new super creature, waiting to infect and control another human. So Deneva, along with Ingraham B, Theta Cygni XII, Lavinius V, and Beta Portolan, needs to be watched closely."

And possibly this helps make the destruction of the creatures seem more plausible.

And of course, today, you wouldn't need Kellam de Forest (up until less than a minute ago, I wasn't aware that he's a person, or that he was, at last report, still alive; I'd always assumed the name referred to a think-tank) to tell you that high intensity UV was a bad idea; you pick any random eight-year-old, and he or she would be able to tell you what high intensity UV does to the human body.

Ain't 20:20 hindsight wonderful? :p

I am not quite certain that knowledge has reached every eight-year-old. Where I live I sometimes see children, including those over eight, outside bare headed, And although it is a beautiful sight to see the highlights in the hair of blonde haired children glittering gold in the sunlight, I don't think that it is worth the increased risk of skin cancer for them later in life.
 
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@ZapBrannigan always touches on the same nostalgia I feel. Those books represented the show for me between broadcasts. I even remember a few of the stores where I found a few: Star Trek "1" at, believe it or not, A&S, Star Trek 4 at a small and long gone indie bookstore (where I also found TMoST and a shitload of Fotonovels), Star Trek 11 at a local drug store. To this day, I love the "early weirdness" of the first book, with Robert and Nancy Crater renamed "Bierce" (and they lived at the "crater campsite") in the similarly renamed "The Unreal McCoy." And Spock being referred to as a "Vulcanite." I must still have two or three copies of each book, some for reading, others for display. These and the Mego Action Figures were how I lived Star Trek in the 70's.

As I remember, I bought the first Star Trek book in a place I only went to once, presumably on a walk. It was a sort of a drug store I guess, on the ground floor of the Benson East apartment building in Abington Township, PA.

That omnibus only includes a bit over half the episodes.

The original collections are very common. You can pick up a complete run pretty cheaply on eBay.

I strongly recommend reading them in order (including Spock Must Die!) Blish added some very, very light continuity that is only apparent when you read them as published.

Very interesting.

The common fictional orders and possible viewing orders of TOS episodes include:

1) Original broadcast order.

2) Production order.

3) Stardate order.

And I can add:

4) By order of seasons, and then by stardates within seasons.

Some goofier orders which I have sometimes suggested as jokes include:

5) In increasing order of quality, so it gets better and better as you go on. .

6) In decreasing order of quality. If introducing someone to TOS, show them the best episodes first to get them hooked..

7) Alphabetical order.

8) Reverse Alphabetical order.

And now you suggest another order.

9) In the order of publication of their James Blish adaptations> And their Alan Dean Foster adaptations for the animated series.

Weren't the Klingons deprived of interstellar space flight in Spock Must Die!? But I find an adaptation of "A Private Little War" in Star trek 10. Did Blish leave the Klingons out?

And "Day of the Dove" in Star Trek 11.

So what is the continuity with the Klingons in the Blish adaptations?
 
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I just want to point out that at least The "Vegan Hegemony" appeared in a poster timeline thingie and got a bit of an expanded explanation.

That was the Vegan Tyranny. They were offscreen alien villains in Blish's Cities in Flight novels.
 
Why do people forget about the mad, crazy BBC order? And if there is another TV station out there that continually changed the tun of episodes I'd love to hear about them! :techman:
JB
 
Weren't the Klingons deprived of interstellar space flight in Spock Must Die!? But I find an adaptation of "A Private Little War" in Star trek 10. Did Blish leave the Klingons out?
And "Day of the Dove" in Star Trek 11.
So what is the continuity with the Klingons in the Blish adaptations?
Light continuity. Very, very light. Mostly in the first three + Spock Must Die!
But yeah, they totally ignore that plot point from SMD! in the later adaptations of Klingon episodes. :shrug:
I think it's no accident "Blish" saved those episodes for later in the adaptation sequence. Maybe they hoped they'd never have to worry about it, if the books stopped selling before they finished adapting all the episodes.
And now you suggest another order.
9) In the order of publication of their James Blish adaptations> And their Alan Dean Foster adaptations for the animated series.
No, I never suggested VIEWING episodes in that order. I suggest READING the Blish/Lawrence Star Trek books in the order they were published. Treat them as a separate thing. Watching the episodes in that order makes no sense at all.
The ADF Logs should definitely be read in order, too.
 
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