Apple vs. Samsung Trial

[Methos]

Interesting development. I guess Apple decided to sit in the corner sulking. Take not of other peoples work and later patent the hell out of it.

"It's official. The Opus audio codec is now standardized by the IETF as RFC 6716. Opus is the first state-of-the-art, fully Free and Open audio codec ratified by a major standard."

http://news.slashdot.org/story/12/09/11/2156225/opus-the-codec-to-end-all-codecs

Opus is the result of a collaboration between Xiph.Org, Mozilla, Microsoft (yes!), Broadcom, Octasic, and Google...

Xiph already handle Ogg, Speex and FLAC among others if I recall.

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[Robert Maxwell]

Cool. I'm always in favor of open, royalty-free media standards. Let's get them built into some hardware now!

 

[Gary7]

I find the whole patent administration of this country to be despicable. I mean, the things that you are permitted to patent... so many of them are too "obvious". I really don't think you should be able to patent the shape of a device, unless it is just a very unique shape never made before. A rounded corner rectangle? A grid menu display of icons that appear on a screen? The ability to "swipe" those icons off the screen like a page? I really don't think these characteristics should be patent-able. Now, perhaps the logic routine employed to manage scrolling momentum, with the "elastic" effect... YES, I can see that being patented.

Anyway, I think that if Apple wins the appeal, they'll use this as a platform to stand on and take aim at all the others, like Motorola, HTC, etc. Wasn't there an Apple suit against Android that eventually fizzled out?

 

[JarodRussell]

I guess Disney should have patented that "elastic effect". They used it for character and object animation long before Apple existed.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I find the whole patent administration of this country to be despicable. I mean, the things that you are permitted to patent... so many of them are too "obvious". I really don't think you should be able to patent the shape of a device, unless it is just a very unique shape never made before. A rounded corner rectangle? A grid menu display of icons that appear on a screen? The ability to "swipe" those icons off the screen like a page? I really don't think these characteristics should be patent-able. Now, perhaps the logic routine employed to manage scrolling momentum, with the "elastic" effect... YES, I can see that being patented.

Anyway, I think that if Apple wins the appeal, they'll use this as a platform to stand on and take aim at all the others, like Motorola, HTC, etc. Wasn't there an Apple suit against Android that eventually fizzled out?

Fully agreed.

Patents are supposed to be on things that are "novel" and "non-obvious." There are a lot of patents that consist of little more than "[some existing activity] on a computer." That's not novel, it's an obvious application. Rounded corners in a UI? How the hell is that novel? Apparently, Apple also has a patent on phone numbers turned into hyperlinks, which dial when clicked. Say what?? They were granted that patent in 2007, years after Palm had been doing the same thing. Yes, the patent covers other stuff, but that's part of the problem: a patent should be specific and narrow to a particular invention and its applications. If portions of a patent are invalid, then the whole patent should be invalid and unenforceable.

But the USPTO seems to have no one trained to vet this stuff. They don't know what's prior art and what isn't. And technology companies are engaged in an ever-escalating arms race to patent everything they can, either defensively or offensively (and many companies do both.) It's madness, and rather than be a driver of innovation, it creates lots of unnecessary legal costs and bogs down our court system. Ultimately, consumers and taxpayers end up footing the bill for this shit, and that's totally unacceptable.

 

[Methos]

and now Apple have released their 5th Gen stuff... lets take a look at it compared to Samsung hardware...

Hmmm... somehow i think those jurors that handed Apple the trial will be kicking themselves right now as the truth smacks them in the face...

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[JarodRussell]

Why isn't Paramount/CBS sueing Apple? They invented the entire concept.

 

[gturner]

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/09/17/woz-on-apple-legal-victory-over-samsung-hate-it/

Woz hates the verdict, and says the patented features were trivial. He prefers Android, and says the iPhone is for people who are afraid of computers.