Anyone here think the moon landings were faked?

[Buck Rogers]

Oh please`RJDiogenes,
You've known me along time do you really think that everything is faked show me the proof.
you've stated your opinion and I respect it,but I was there and I remember the previous space missions too,and they weren't faked either.
As to one world government that is secretly running the world is preposterousness.
However we have two world organizations one the world court in Der Hague,Netherlands,and the World Monetary fund the next two we need have a world government is a President of the world government and the world congress,and then we'll have a world government. BTW the EU is an experiment in legislation ,one currency.
But getting back to the point of the this thread were the moon landings faked no I don't think so and I'm entitled my opinion,because I was there watching the whole thing transpiring before my eyes.
That's my take.
Signed
Buck Rogers

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Honestly, with the amount of studies related to the Kennedy assassination and really crappy evidence that is easily debunked that suggests otherwise (such as the audiotape with the car backfire people thought was gunfire), I think it's easier to be a 9/11 truther.

Even witness testimony is useless at this point. Provided that they were actually there.......

I'm going to stop you right there because you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you're an actual expert here, I'll concede to your clearly qualified opinion.

 

[SG-17]

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[ichab]

Have a source buddy?

http://www.kenrahn.com/JFK/the_critics/griffith/Problems_with_case_against_Oswald.html

Oswald was at best only an average marksman. President Kennedy was a moving target as his limousine traveled on Elm Street in Dealey Plaza. From the southeast corner window on the sixth floor of the Book Depository, Oswald would have been firing at the President from sixty feet up and from over two hundred feet away on average. Based on the Zapruder film and on eyewitness testimony, the WC believed that all three shots were fired in less than six seconds. There are doubts about the capabilities of the alleged murder weapon itself. In reenactments of the assassination, the expert marksmen hired by the WC were unable to duplicate Oswald's alleged shooting performance.

A target moving away is easy to hit in this case. Leading the target becomes a lot easier and you don't have to worry about the windshield in the way.

Kennedy was sitting in the back seat and Oswald was shooting from 60 feet up. The windshield wouldn't have been a factor.

The most difficult parts are the speed and accuracy, which are clearly shown here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGOQ2oebB2M

Thanks for the link. I wasn't questioning the jerk of JFK's head as I've already seen good demonstrations with a melon. The video does however disprove the skeptics on the difficulty of recycling the weapon after every shot so I'll concede that point of the argument. However,the accuracy tests were only for purposes of proving the rifle's accuracy in of itself and I've never questioned that. I know the carcano is an accurate weapon. I question how accurate Oswald would have been using it from 60 feet up and trying to hit a moving target through heavy folage. I still haven't seen anyone able to do duplicate this feat.

I've also yet to see anyone duplicate 7 wounds with anything but theoretical physics. I could see two or maybe three wounds, but not seven. And the bullet would not have been in almost pristine condition. Anytime a bullet is pulled out of a carcass, it's severely damaged. Anyone that has ever hunted could tell you this.

 

[Subcommander R.]

Have a source buddy?

http://www.kenrahn.com/JFK/the_critics/griffith/Problems_with_case_against_Oswald.html

Oswald was at best only an average marksman. President Kennedy was a moving target as his limousine traveled on Elm Street in Dealey Plaza. From the southeast corner window on the sixth floor of the Book Depository, Oswald would have been firing at the President from sixty feet up and from over two hundred feet away on average. Based on the Zapruder film and on eyewitness testimony, the WC believed that all three shots were fired in less than six seconds. There are doubts about the capabilities of the alleged murder weapon itself. In reenactments of the assassination, the expert marksmen hired by the WC were unable to duplicate Oswald's alleged shooting performance.

A target moving away is easy to hit in this case. Leading the target becomes a lot easier and you don't have to worry about the windshield in the way.

Kennedy was sitting in the back seat and Oswald was shooting from 60 feet up. The windshield wouldn't have been a factor.

The most difficult parts are the speed and accuracy, which are clearly shown here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGOQ2oebB2M

Thanks for the link. I wasn't questioning the jerk of JFK's head as I've already seen good demonstrations with a melon. The video does however disprove the skeptics on the difficulty of recycling the weapon after every shot so I'll concede that point of the argument. However,the accuracy tests were only for purposes of proving the rifle's accuracy in of itself and I've never questioned that. I know the carcano is an accurate weapon. I question how accurate Oswald would have been using it from 60 feet up and trying to hit a moving target through heavy folage. I still haven't seen anyone able to do duplicate this feat.

I've also yet to see anyone duplicate 7 wounds with anything but theoretical physics. I could see two or maybe three wounds, but not seven. And the bullet would not have been in almost pristine condition. Anytime a bullet is pulled out of a carcass, it's severely damaged. Anyone that has ever hunted could tell you this.

Where's a direct link to this FBI trial you claimed happened? I don't really want to read a dozen pages to find a single thing. Also, Oswald was a Sharpshooter in the USMC. Thats hardly 'average.'

Elevation gives you an even better vantage. Foliage is nowhere near the obstacle you seem to think it is. And it certainly doesn't seem 'heavy' in any picture I can find.

Oswald was about 60 yards away. And you just saw a marksman making shots twice as far in the same time.

Your standards are overly high. You should know perfectly well that you cannot exactly replicate any shot. Wind, powder loads, individual rifle characteristics, and a dozen other factors mean the same thing can never happen twice.

They've proved that you can make shots of the required accuracy at the required distance within the time alloted. Elevation won't affect that at all.

You do appreciate that the ballistic qualities of FMJ rounds and hunting soft points are hugely different? FMJs don't generally mushroom dramatically unless they hit something very hard.

Now, in the words of Forrest Gump: that's all I have to say about that.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Oh please`RJDiogenes,
You've known me along time do you really think that everything is faked show me the proof.
you've stated your opinion and I respect it,but I was there and I remember the previous space missions too,and they weren't faked either.
As to one world government that is secretly running the world is preposterousness.
However we have two world organizations one the world court in Der Hague,Netherlands,and the World Monetary fund the next two we need have a world government is a President of the world government and the world congress,and then we'll have a world government. BTW the EU is an experiment in legislation ,one currency.

I was kidding.