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Anyone here think the moon landings were faked?

Everything seems so simple after the fact. The fact is that rocks and wires had existed a long time before 1947 and they "invented" it just a short time after absolutely nothing landed in Roswell, New Mexico. Its one of those things we will probably never know the truth of. For those of you who believe there was no Roswell cover up, I cannot relate to the Disney World faith you have in our government. I don't share that. I question the governments motives and wish more people did the same. For those who defend the government without question, it scares me.

The principles of the transistor were first patented in 1925. A primitive version was first built in 1942. It's a key component in signal amplification. To claim that human beings aren't smart enough to figure it out on their own (especially after decades of electronics research) is frankly insulting.

What does this have to do with "The Government" supposedly faking the moon landings? Is your faith in your position so weak that you have to change the subject and insult the people who understand the facts of science & history? I for one would still love to hear about how "The Government" found it to be better / easier / cheaper to do so.

Oh, and "The Government's" motives for the Space Race are well known and thoroughly documented in multiple media.
Signal amplification was going on way before transistors with vacuum tubes which also give a 180 degree phase shift. I think something happened in the desert of NM and the government won't tell us what it was and we got the benefit of it.

Research had been going into solid-state electronics for YEARS before the first practical silicon transistor was constructed in 1954.
 
If a confirmed landing of an alien spacecraft had happened in 1902 and then cam government denial, then some new invention happened, it would make me think the two were related.

That's a pretty big leap :wtf:
Assuming there even was “a confirmed landing of an alien spacecraft” at Roswell, it's still a case of post hoc, ergo propter hoc. Only in this instance, there wasn't even any hoc to begin with.
 
How did we get from moon landings being fake to Roswell cover up????

Part of your argument, Enlisted Person, is that the flag was waving? Really? Am I the only one who has seen BOTH episodes of Myth Busters where they COMPLETELY debunked the stupid conspiracies?:confused:

I suppose next you will tell me that the moon is actually a spaceship and an alien race is protecting us from lizard people because I can not prove otherwise :rolleyes:

Oh..BTW sticking with the ORIGINAL topic...YES I believe the moon landings did occur.
 
How did we get from moon landings being fake to Roswell cover up????

Actually, this is a point that David Aaronovitch addresses in his book Voodoo Histories: people who buy into one conspiracy theory often buy into others as well. Once you get into the conspiracist mindset, you start to see them everywhere.

Another point he makes, which many people may find surprising, is that most conspiracists are not stupid or ignorant. Many of them are actually pretty smart and well-educated. A disposition for conspiracism is independent of any other characteristic.
 
The moon landing couldn't have been faked because people saw it on TV! That seems to be the only proof people need of the event happing. It would be much easier to fake a moon mission than the actually go there. Especially when one watches the video of the US flag flapping in the breeze of the vacuum of space? I am 100% agnostic on the moon missions. I am not saying it didn't happen but I would like to see proof. We got satellites that can look down at earth and read the date on a coin laying on the ground, we should be able to see the moon mission gear left on the moon with a telescope from here on earth. That would be proof.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBCfuKs9i8[/yt]
 
Firstly transistors are direct descendants of solid state diodes..some of which existed in 1904... if one is acquainted with electronic history, you can see the progression from electron tubes to solid state very easily..there was no "quantum leap" in capabilities or invention..each built up logically on prior research..

the entire "Transistors are from Aliens" theory is simply pure shit..
 
One question the doubters never seem to answer is just why NASA faked a Moon landing not once, not twice, but SIX times!

Why did they fake it six times?

Actually I think generally the conspiracy theory postulates that only the first one was faked to meet Kennedy's deadline, avoid being seen as incompetent or keep NASA's budget from being cut.

Although, it's the nature of such conspiracy theories, that even people who agree on the principle of it, in reality believe wildly different things.
 
in the 60s it was like a religion to believe what the government fed you on TV.
You obviously weren't around in the 60s. :rommie:

I could still be swayed with some actual proof not provided by the government.
There is endless proof supplied by everyone from civilians to civilian agencies to private industry to foreign nations both friendly and hostile, much of which has been listed in this Thread. What more do you need? :rommie:
 
The fact that scientists and other learned men right now,in 2010(soon to be 2011)
What scientists?

I like to deal in facts.
People provided with shitloads of facts and you completely ignored them. Yet you believe in your conspiracy theories without the tiniest piece of proof except some "coincidences". Believe what you will, but your statement was completely false.

Maybe you think I am a nut but
Well, now that you mention it...

For those who defend the government without question, it scares me.
We ask questions. We also listen to the answers, instead of sticking fingers in our ears and going "la-la-la-i-can't-hear-you".
 
EP, are you joking or just an idiot? You make a statement, posters counter with facts, you dismiss the facts and complain that no one is providing facts. And then go on to make even more outrageous claims.

I claim you’re an idiot unless you can provide facts that you are not.
 
That Mythbusters clip was very impressive indeed, until you realize that Kari, Grant, and Tory are actually androids created by the Air Force by reverse engineering Roswell alien technology.

The World Government programmed them to carry out, manipulate, and then broadcast this experiment so as to discredit the "moon-flag-flapped-'cuz-it-was-actually-filmed-on-earth" crowd.

P.S. Jamie Hyneman's mustache is actually a subspace transceiver.
 
Sometimes a person simply is unable to weigh and process information effectively, which can lead to situations with more serious consequences for that individual than simply believing discredited hoaxes. This seems to be the case here with the hoax supporters. Even when presented with good information that should at the very least cause them to reconsider their belief, the information just doesn't register with them and they just go on with the script they already have in their minds for discussing the topic.

The adversarial U.S.S.R. was watching. Ham Radio operators reported that they picked up the transmissions during all the missions.... The list goes on and on....

An interesting question to ask is WHY do the hoax believers NEED to cling so badly to this nonsense?
 
I've never understood the mindset of someone wishing to discredit the coolest thing humans have ever done.
 
A waving flag = FAKE

Yes because the government would go to all that trouble of faking it and let some gust of wind in to move the flag :rolleyes: People are idiots.

Wait till we go to Mars, people will say it was James Cameron and his CGI machine.
 
That Mythbusters clip was very impressive indeed, until you realize that Kari, Grant, and Tory are actually androids created by the Air Force by reverse engineering Roswell alien technology.

The World Government programmed them to carry out, manipulate, and then broadcast this experiment so as to discredit the "moon-flag-flapped-'cuz-it-was-actually-filmed-on-earth" crowd.

P.S. Jamie Hyneman's mustache is actually a subspace transceiver.

:guffaw: I am laughing to hard right now to even make a sarcastic comment...it is rare to have someone make me laugh so hard that I am rendered speechless...:guffaw:
 
That Mythbusters clip was very impressive indeed, until you realize that Kari, Grant, and Tory are actually androids created by the Air Force by reverse engineering Roswell alien technology.

The World Government programmed them to carry out, manipulate, and then broadcast this experiment so as to discredit the "moon-flag-flapped-'cuz-it-was-actually-filmed-on-earth" crowd.

P.S. Jamie Hyneman's mustache is actually a subspace transceiver.

ROFLMAO

Wait till we go to Mars, people will say it was James Cameron and his CGI machine.

ROFLMAO again.
 
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