Anyone else not like the opening scene?
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Loved the scene. Loved it.
You know, one consequence of all this new lovin' going on would have likely been a falling away of visible racial differences among humans.
New Humans might have all ended up looking like Halle Berry, or Jessica Alba.
Now would that have been all bad?
Thus was the wisdom and vision of Roddenberry.
But he didn't cast that way. Ever.
You know, one consequence of all this new lovin' going on would have likely been a falling away of visible racial differences among humans.
New Humans might have all ended up looking like Halle Berry, or Jessica Alba.
Now would that have been all bad?
Thus was the wisdom and vision of Roddenberry.
But he didn't cast that way. Ever.
Meh. He was sleeping with Majel and Nichelle at the same time.
Didn't make a whit of a difference to his alleged vision for the future onscreen.
I loved it... got goosebumps when they were panning across the Kelvin and I heard the old TOS bridge sound.
I liked the opening scene. Had a lot of action and suspense, but it is too bad Kirk's father died. That's one thing I wouldn't of mind seeing not happen.
Abrams had nothing to do with it. or, at least, he joined a looooong line. you're gonna have to talk to people like Diane Carey if you wanna know who was first.
QFT.
Same here. I was watching the movie in an IMAX theater and when George Kirk died, I felt a tear running down my face. It was obviously foreshadowing events that happened later in the film.
The only other times Trek has made me cry was in the death scene in "The Wrath of Khan" and the DS9 episode "The Visitor." As a result, I came away with the new version of KIrk and why he was so full of rage and recklessness until Bruce Greenwood (Captain Pike) challenged him to join Starfleet. Which by the way was a tremendous performance by Greenwood.
In a word, no.
I think the opening scene worked on a few different levels....
First of all, it was a genuinely well made Action scene.
Second, it was actually very emotional and you managed to care for a character who had only been on screen for a few seconds. It's pure melodrama. Over the top and dramatic, yet effective. So it's well done and generally a good set up for a space Opera.
Third, I couldn't help get some laughs out of it. Because even melodrama like that done well is still melodrama, and henceforth still very cheesey. I turned a few heads in theater as I chuckled at the naming of the baby.
First of all, it was a genuinely well made Action scene.
Second, it was actually very emotional and you managed to care for a character who had only been on screen for a few seconds. It's pure melodrama. Over the top and dramatic, yet effective. So it's well done and generally a good set up for a space Opera.
Third, I couldn't help get some laughs out of it. Because even melodrama like that done well is still melodrama, and henceforth still very cheesey. I turned a few heads in theater as I chuckled at the naming of the baby.
^Ditto.
I also have to say that George Kirk's lines of "I love you so much..." right before the big boom had me incredibly choked up. Combined with the music, it was just incredible.
Ewww. This would take the "everyman" aspect away from Kirk and turn him into some sort of "hippie/commune" love child. No thanks.
What the hell was Roddenberry smoking when he thought of this odd background story for Kirk's parents?
Nope. I've never looked at that thread. Don't plan to, either.
Nope. I hadn't been hanging out for new Trek. All I wanted for this movie was for it to not suck / be better than Nemesis. I had no greater expectations than that.
This. To each their own, of course, but I agree with Borgminister's take on the scene. I've seen the movie three times and the opening 10 or so minutes teared me up each time.
As for Roddenberry's "vision" of Kirk's parentage and future humans...
Reads more like his fantasy life than anything humankind is likely to turn into.
You're pretty much alone there. This was the pinnacle of non-Enterprise starship scenes...compare it to scenes from Generations, STIII, STII, and even the previous best from Saratoga, in STIV.
Maybe I missed something but it seemed to me that George said he couldn't leave because the autopilot was broken. Then a few seconds later he sets a collision course (complete with countdown to impact) with the Narada. How does he set a course with the autopilot out? I was thinking he was going to have to manually steer the ship in. Instead he just sits there and discusses baby names while he floats to his doom.
I know he stayed to try and shoot down the missiles to protect the shuttles, but I don't see why he had to stay after that all the way up until the collision and die (other than to provide some "touching" heroics). More sloppy writing IMO.
I know he stayed to try and shoot down the missiles to protect the shuttles, but I don't see why he had to stay after that all the way up until the collision and die (other than to provide some "touching" heroics). More sloppy writing IMO.
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