Anyone else not like the opening scene?
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It's hard for me to believe the OP was not trolling. Obviously the first scene was spectacular. Two of my favorite parts: the montage without diegetic sound intercutting between George and Winona as the Kelvin goes to its doom; and the final incredible shot of the Narada screen left and the Kelvin's shuttles slowly floating away screen right, the score having changed to triple time waltz tempo.
I am 95% sure the OP was just trolling, trying to get a rise out of people. If not, maybe he's tone deaf or something and can't hear the great music.
Well I personally agree that the opening sequence was NOT as emotional or gripping as numerous people seem to claim.
It evoked 0 emotional response from me.
It was entertaining sure, but hardly 'spectacular' ... although I'm also pleased that the movie is doing well on all sides overall.
I also think that Roddenberry's idea of 'New Humans' and all was actually quite interesting and worth exploring for the setup of Trek future (but was essentially dropped in the shows).
Problem is though, we are dealing with general audience and numerous people who are way too keen on contemporary views of human behavior and think that nothing of the sort that Gene initially thought of for Trek would ever happen in the future.
The simple answer is: we don't know what will happen.
Then again I personally enjoy seeing people who are able to imagine something so far away from the established norms of society and points of views ... something so radically different, but plausible at the same time.
And why would it be plausible?
Simple ... adjust human perception to a different mindset that isn't the contemporary one and problem solved.
This movie, as entertaining it was to watch, is a radically adjusted version of Trek that conforms far too much to contemporary human behavior so the general audience would be able to get into it.
A lot of people don't want to be bothered with details like some of us (which is why I was left feeling that numerous things were missing from the movie, even though they can be explained within the confines of the movie quite easily WITHOUT using 'Countdown' or Borg technology that was actually in the novel itself which is not canon to begin with).
We shall see how JJ takes on the sequels.
No doubt that they will be entertaining to watch ... and hopefully this movie has brought Trek back into the minds of the general audience that might expand their horizons as well to other Trek shows.
It evoked 0 emotional response from me.
It was entertaining sure, but hardly 'spectacular' ... although I'm also pleased that the movie is doing well on all sides overall.
I also think that Roddenberry's idea of 'New Humans' and all was actually quite interesting and worth exploring for the setup of Trek future (but was essentially dropped in the shows).
Problem is though, we are dealing with general audience and numerous people who are way too keen on contemporary views of human behavior and think that nothing of the sort that Gene initially thought of for Trek would ever happen in the future.
The simple answer is: we don't know what will happen.
Then again I personally enjoy seeing people who are able to imagine something so far away from the established norms of society and points of views ... something so radically different, but plausible at the same time.
And why would it be plausible?
Simple ... adjust human perception to a different mindset that isn't the contemporary one and problem solved.
This movie, as entertaining it was to watch, is a radically adjusted version of Trek that conforms far too much to contemporary human behavior so the general audience would be able to get into it.
A lot of people don't want to be bothered with details like some of us (which is why I was left feeling that numerous things were missing from the movie, even though they can be explained within the confines of the movie quite easily WITHOUT using 'Countdown' or Borg technology that was actually in the novel itself which is not canon to begin with).
We shall see how JJ takes on the sequels.
No doubt that they will be entertaining to watch ... and hopefully this movie has brought Trek back into the minds of the general audience that might expand their horizons as well to other Trek shows.
I went to the cinema on opening day and I remember the very first scene where you hear the beeps and then the camers swings away from the hull off the USS Kelvin and you hear those transmissions to Starfleet. I knew then that this was gonna be good.
I gasped in shock when the woman got blasted into space and then musec faded to silence!
I was grasped with emotion as the situation became grim for the crew.
To me this was one of my all time openings to any star trek movie!
How anyone could not like such a powerful opening is beyond me!
I gasped in shock when the woman got blasted into space and then musec faded to silence!
I was grasped with emotion as the situation became grim for the crew.
To me this was one of my all time openings to any star trek movie!
How anyone could not like such a powerful opening is beyond me!
Totally agreed.
I agree the execution in the movie as far as numerous scenes are concerned was top notch, but you also don't understand the complexities of human behavior if you say that it's 'beyond you' if anyone could not like 'such a powerful opening' and the fact that each individual react in their own way depending on the circumstances.
There are no universal rules.
There are established norms of society.
To simply condemn (or ridicule) everyone who don't react in the same way when someone dies (regardless of the type of situation/circumstances) is just playing it 'stupid' and not accepting people for who they are.
The scene was enjoyable yes, but it didn't invoke an emotional response from me.
Am I supposed to be condemned and burned on a stick for it?
Please.
One of the reasons I liked the opening sequence is that it showed other captains are just as admirable as Kirk. Robau went in knowing he wasn't getting out alive, but he did what he had to. That reminded me of Captain Terrell from The Wrath of Khan, who rather than shoot an admiral he'd never met, found the strength to limit the casualties to just one: himself.
Same as George Kirk. He was captain for 12 minutes and saved the rest of the crew by sacrificing himself. It's also interesting that out of one of the Federation's worst tragedies, one of its greatest heroes was born.
Did I say that I love this movie?
Same as George Kirk. He was captain for 12 minutes and saved the rest of the crew by sacrificing himself. It's also interesting that out of one of the Federation's worst tragedies, one of its greatest heroes was born.
Did I say that I love this movie?
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Folks, I'm pretty sure SonicRanger is just taking the piss.
The opening was great
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Best bit of the movie.
I loved the rest of it, but if I'm being honest - It never really reached the heights of that opening sequence.
Outstanding.
Or maybe, as I believe to be the case, he sincerely states his opinion of the opening sequence. I liked it, myself; so did a lot of people, but it's far from a universal opinion. You are welcome to hold a different opinion but he is allowed to give his, just the same. If you disagree, then you may say so, and explain why.
The parts of your post which I've placed in bold are a problem. They represent an opinion which you are within your rights to hold, but which is not acceptable leveled as an accusation within the bounds of a discussion thread. If you believe someone to be doing something which contravenes the board rules or otherwise requires the attention of the moderator, what you want to do is to click on the
Your last sentence (which I've underlined) is also a little more personal than I want to see here. Remember this simple thing:
"Post, not poster."
If you address the content of the post and refrain from attacking the person who posted it, then the majority of the time, you should be all right.
Nope. I loved it. In fact, it was the ONLY part of the movie that I wasn't able to nit-pick. It was, in a nutshell, what I thought the rest of the movie should have been, but was not.
Wow. I've never heard of that. I'm hoping you're joking.
If not, this only serves to re-enforce my belief that Roddenberry, like Lucas (and RDM to a certain degree), was a total douche who's only contribution to this work was its creation, which creation he had no real talent for fleshing out.
If what you say is true, then I can safely chalk this up to one of the myriad of decent-to-great things that Abrams actually did for the franchise.
~String
I like the opening but the fade to black show the title was unnecessary
Maybe I'm the only one, but I cried a little when G. Kirk died. That's how moving the first scene was to me.
I thought it was excellent. Care had to be taken to draw in the casual viewer from the beginning and I think it was achieved very well. What I liked was that it didn't assume a basic level of knowledge of Trek, people are clever enough to work it out for themselves if given the chance.
Roddenberry's "New Humans" were mentioned in GR's ST:TMP novelization. As far as I remember, it was Willard Decker's mother who was the New Human. I don't recall Kirk's mother being linked to them.
And I loved the opening sequence of JJ's movie. Chris Hemsworth won a Best New Talent Logie for his acting work in Australia. I thought he played George Kirk very well. My friends and I were even a little teary after the emotional opening scenes, which surprised us all.
The opening sequence was one of the best I've seen in a long time!
Loved it!!!!
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