Anyone else impressed by how they handled Ezri?
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Which is why I specified, "With the behind-the-scenes fracas done and Farrell leaving the show, the writers could only kill Jadzia or say that she just went somewhere else for the final season."
Me: "I'm eternally glad they went with option 1."
You: "And I agree to disagree."
If you disagree, then it means you prefer option two.
But evidently you really mean that you prefer some other pre-Farrell-leaving option, which I never brought up so why'd you quote me at all?
If we're disregarding all real-world practical concerns then my vote goes for still killing Jadzia off but having an extra couple of seasons of DS9.
That wouldn't have solved all my problems... but it would have addressed the one about Ezri not having time to develop.
In Julian's dreams, mostly
It was implied that they went on a date or two early in season 1. There weren't many.There are a lot of reports. We'll never know all of both sides. Some say Farrell would have been okay with working on DS9 as long as it wasn't every episode... but she still wanted the same money. Not surprising if that's what they said no to. Or one or both accounts might have been great exaggerations.
At least mine gives me summers off.
Oh, were you there? Or did you see a recording that you know for sure was unedited?
As mentioned, Ezri wasn't doing the same job as Jadzia on the bridge. Despite having her memories, Ezri was likely not qualified enough to be helmsman... probably not enough time at the helm to qualify. Jadzia was at least a Level 3 pilot (in season 2's "PLAYING GOD"), and could have become a Level 4 by the time the Defiant comes around.
Starfleet officers have shown to be cross-trained. (Chekov worked in just about every department in TOS, Worf did multiple roles in TNG season 1, LaForge has been a pilot and engineer, O'Brien has done a lot roles, Janeway was a science officer before going into command, etc. The list is endless.) It makes sense that Ezri would be performing other duties and roles when not working as Counselor. Especially during wartime.
Out of curiosity, what do you consider the other 3 major DS9 missteps?
Sorry for the confusion. I am not quoting anyone, but more summarizing what people have said. Rick Berman did not say this specifically to Farrell, but according to Farrell herself, someone in production (I assume in the franchise, not necessarily the show) did come out while she waited for negotiations, to tell her that she owed her career to Star Trek and would be lucky to work in a department store.
The biggest was the unceremonious destruction of Ferengi society. Female suffrage could have been worked out in a way that made sense. They didn't have to pull the house down in its wake.
The second was not returning Ben to his pregnant wife at the end. To Avery Brooks, this was anathema to the character he was trying to play.
The third was not swapping "Inquisition" and "In the Pale Moonlight" and working S31's introduction into Sisko's actions. Something like "that affair with the Romulans made us realize we needed a permanent presence here. Sisko's too visible, but thst genetically enhanced doctor of yours will do fine, especially since he's chummy with Garak."
I agree with the first one.
Agreed with the second, to a point. He did promise he'd be back, and he can still show up in visions to them until his return.
For the third... I get the argument. But two points. First, Sloan wouldn't risk undoing that work with the Romulans by hinting that was a thing to Bashir (or anyone else, for that matter). Second, one can simply swap the viewing order of both episodes when rewatching. "INQUISITION" doesn't have a stardate, and it can also be argued the events there occured during "IN THE PALE MOONLIGHT". About a week went by between Bashir's initial appearance with the first casualty list and Sisko ordering him to package up the biomimetic gel.
For me, the one big misstep, character wise, was O'Brien after "HARD TIME". DS9 was usually VERY good at keeping track of such things with their characters, so it's even more glaring when it diesn't happen. (Particularly since it's so exveedingly rare.)
Even a medical log entry could explain a treatment that is helping him.
I agree. And his treatment would be pretty straightforward. Maybe the prison memories can't be erased... but I think Bashir could blur them considerably. O'Brien would remember his prison sentence the way one would remember a 3-day tequila bender.
As much as it was a cliché to drop a complicated issue of mental illness, as if there is a direct line from diagnosis, not dealing more with OBrien's problems has some benefits. Episodes that dove deeply into mental health would have become extraordinarily out of date. Given none of the writers had professional training in medicine, mental health, or therapy, chances are what they would have written would have been junk science. The research in neurology and cognition already undermines the foundations of many franchise episodes. It would have been nice to have had OBrien's therapy mentioned or a recurring event: maybe a couples session could provide more humor in marital relation. However, there wasn't much story left, not that could be responsibly told.
Considering how often DISCO went with their shrink sessions with that crew in the middle of situations, it was probably for the best DS9 didn't go further with O'Brien in that one. Another reason the DS9 writers were far better than the DISCO ones... they knew when to leave something alone.
I'll have to take your word for that. I've never had a 3-day bender, as far as I can recall.
Okay, so it's still a story told by one party only, with no confirmation.
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