Re: Anyone else GAGGING over the AICN-based article? (spoil
Starship Polaris said:
darkwing_duck1 said:
Starship Polaris said:
So, the new movie won't follow the visual design of TOS - the new Enterprise will look considerably different from the TOS ship, though it will have the same basic components
That's not what the articles say.
We'll see very shortly.
I believe that the quote from the OTHER "Brown" you're hearing from on this topic is that
As far as I know, only the exterior of the Enterprise had to stay the same. I don’t know if that came from J.J. or Paramount
Basically, the direction from above was that the exteriors were off-limits. Of course, as also mentioned, she's not
working on the exteriors, so maybe her knowledge about what another department is doing is flawed.
Still, it's worthwhile to note that her statement was pretty unambigous... she BELIEVES that the exterior is essentially unchanged, but that there are some significant changes to what's going to be seen internally (which is a fairly vague comment... what's significant to ONE person may be "what, no cast-resin jellybean buttons???" while to another it may mean "the bridge is no longer round."
Damned hard to say at this point. Though I REALLY don't expect the interior sets to be as dramatically different as some folks are expecting, either.
Basically, if this is a Pike-era build of the ship, everything WAS changed in between then and when Kirk took the ship on the 5-year-mission. And considering the commonality of certain sets between "The Cage" and "WNMHGB," it's not unreasonable to assume that the ship got gutted and essentially rebuilt, internally, between WNMHGB and the opening of the series (and the 5-year-mission). Not unexpected since the ship basically was limping home using spit, bailing wire, duct tape... and cannibalized mining hardware.
SO, all we REALLY know is what the bridge and the transporter rooms from the Pike Era looked like, and the main briefing room. Everything else from that era (say, Main Engineering just for example) is TOTALLY OPEN TO REDESIGN.
Oh, and also "totally open to doing with green-screen" if it's not going to see a lot of screen time.
Dawn was quite upset, clearly stated in the article, that most of the sets seen on Enterprise (or elsewhere?) are not "REAL" sets, but that there's a lot of green-screen work.
To me, that implies that there really aren't THAT many shots on the ship. And it also implies that whatever she THINKS she's working on may not be exactly what she's working on. She said it herself... her job is relegated as much to being a "stage assistant for the SFX guys" as it is to design sets, now... or as she puts it:
"I'm not a fan of the digital and green screen or blue screen sets," she said. "I understand they have their place, but I think it usually looks better when things are physically built. It gives the actors something to react to. The design of the film belongs to the art department, not the visual effects department. I worked on a very large set on 'Star Trek' that would have been an absolutely fantastic physical build. But it became a visual effects shot instead. My involvement was reduced to marking out blue screens and platforms. We have so many talented carpenters and scenic artists and sculptors, and I have seen some truly amazing sets. It is a shame to trade their contributions for green screens."
Assuming we're talking about set on Enterprise (which is a stretch, granted)... it really only makes sense if it's the Hangar or Engineering, doesn't it? And in any case, we never saw either of those in Pike's time, or during Kirk's extragalactic probe mission for that matter.
