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A very fun ep, especially like Salmoneus' song 'Miss Known World' which Ted 'Joxer' Rami sings on the Xena soundtrack. Like the cross-dressing aspect and indeed, you wonder what Gabby is thinking when Xena get's kissed at the end (unusual to see her in the swooning maiden role)
 
A very fun ep, especially like Salmoneus' song 'Miss Known World' which Ted 'Joxer' Rami sings on the Xena soundtrack. Like the cross-dressing aspect and indeed, you wonder what Gabby is thinking when Xena get's kissed at the end (unusual to see her in the swooning maiden role)

:bolian:

Salmoneus: “Ladies and gentlemen, may I present to you, on her inaugural walk down our runway, your Miss Known World:

‘Stand back, and let her through.
She’s the one girl who’ll do.
A beauty so mythic,
Her figure’s terrific.
She’s Miss Known World.
With a face and a form so sublime,
She’s a legend within her own time.
So stand back, make way,
Let her smile make your day.
She’s Miss Known World.’”

Gabrielle: “So, Miss Known World is a man?”
Xena: “Yep.”
Gabrielle: “It’s kind of funny, huh?”
Xena: “Why? Beauty is beauty.”
Gabrielle: “And peace is peace.”

(ETA Discontinued Video replaced)

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"Destiny" is next!

I can't wait!

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Woo Hoo! :devil:
 
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Episode 36: Season 2 #12 "Destiny"

There's a treasure trove here, if you are interested... http://whoosh.org/epguide/destiny.html I'll reference some as we go along, but don't deny yourself.

As I've frequently said over the previous eps... I really enjoy it when the Xena PTB's deign to fill in the background on our Warrior Princess, and they did that in spades this ep. As for why "now".... the simple answer would be... "Why not?"

Gabrielle: “So this is Cirra. (Callisto's birthplace before Xena destroyed it.) It’s beautiful.”
Xena: “To me, it’s the ugliest place on Earth.”
Gabrielle: “I don’t think you should keep punishing yourself for what happened.”
Xena: “I didn’t come here to punish myself. I wanna understand why.”
Gabrielle: “Why what?”
Xena: “Why it happened. Why I was who I was. And how I can ever atone.”
Gabrielle: “You’ve changed, Xena. Like this valley. Once it was a place full of death and violence. But now it’s full of beauty and life. The same kind of change has happened to you.”
Xena: “I wish that I could see it that way.

I like that Xena is looking for answers, but question how she's going about doing it. She has finally come to that point in her life she feels comfortable opening up old wounds, but she leaves behind the woman who has brought her to this point (when she rides down into Cirra). The woman who can see more than the farseeing Xena can see. the woman who can see the goodness in the Warrior who after a year and a half of travels, can still only see the evil she once harbored in her heart.

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"Ten years ago" in mid season 2... means 11 1/2 years ago Xena led a successful revolt against the warlord threatening her town of Amphipolis, and her brother died. Winning Amphipolis's freedom wasn't enough, and she took her fledgling army and conquered the neighboring towns to create a buffer... and of course, after that got boring or perhaps to pay her army, she took to playing the Dread Pirate Xena on the high seas of the Med. But even that became boring, after a while. She didn't know why, perhaps because she was meant for something more than being a petty tyrant, or even a petty Roman Empress? Something so much more that a runaway slave that stowed away on her boat quickly fell under her sway risking her life and freedom to rescue Xena from herself.

When you watch this ep... remember that you are not watching the "Warrior Princess". She hasn't been forged yet. She's still learning the art of seduction, and she can't see when its being practiced upon herself.

So its understandable when the young Caesar can fool her. Its understandable when she can't see any worth in her that would cause a slave to rescue her.

What's always surprising, however, is when "our" Princess lets that blindness creep back into her present life.

In the teaser...

Xena: “I wish that I could see it that way.

And in the fourth act, after Gabrielle has executed herculean tasks to bring the disabled Xena to a healer only Xena knew existed... only to ask of him the incomprehsible....

Gabrielle: “Please-- please help me. Please help me. My friend, she needs help.”
Nicklio: “Xena? What happened to her? Her organs are swelling from internal bleeding.”
Xena: “Nicklio-- don’t, please. Let me go.”

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(Young Xena, lying on the healer's cot, both broken legs, in braces.)

Xena: [Screams as the healer works]
Nicklio: “I’ve just reset your bones You’re lucky M’Lila brought you here.”
Xena: “Yeah, lucky. M’Lila, huh? Ask her why she saved me?”
Nicklio: [Speaks Gaelic]
M’Lila: [Speaks Gaelic]
Nicklio: “She says it’s not your time to die.”
Xena: “Well, if not now, then when?”

And some time later... hours? Days? we see a tender touch from M'Lila awaken the young 17 or 18 year old Pirate from her slumber... and listen to the young women who can't understand each other's language, try to communicate.

Xena: (The Pirate, the current Owner of the slave she only recently learned was called M'Lilia, looks up to the young woman who has taught her so much in such a short span of time, and thanks her.) “M’Lila-- up on that cross-- I wasn’t sure that I wanted to live. You-- you had no reason to save me, but you did. Thank you. I know you can’t understand.”
M’Lila: [The slave speaks Gaelic to her current Mistress. The only word translated for us at "whoosh" is] "Annwyll" [Gaelic for Beloved.]
Nicklio: “She wants to know if you feel anger-- towards Caesar.”

So many crossroads are reached in one's life, and a very young Xena had reached one then and there. "Do you feel anger?" asked the slave to the woman who enslaved her. What more could M'Lila do for the young woman teetering between good and evil at that moment?

We never heard Xena's response.

That was when the Roman Guards searching for her since M'Lila liberated her from that cross, burst in. First they took out Nicklio, and then they aimed a crossbow at the drama Queen who saved Amphipolis at the cost of her Brother's life and her Mother's respect. Aimed and fired.

And the slave who taught Xena what real "martial" arts were about, who could spin and jump, who could pinch and catch knives flung at her, who could catch a woman with broken legs as she fell from her cross... that slave threw the only thing she could find between Xena and certain death... herself.

But if you thought such a selfless act would embolden Xena to choose the righteous path... think again.

The young woman who lost her Mother's love when she lost her Brother's life... the young woman who thought she found an equal, a soul partner in another ambitious if ruthless young and rising Roman... someone to replace all she had lost and bring her more than she could imagine, discovered instead that his heart was even more barren than her own.

That young woman could not stand yet another loss.

I found it interesting, as she took that third soldier's life, that it WASN'T to Caesar that she issued her warning... it was to that fractious god that reveled in death.

Xena: “Tell Hades to prepare himself. A new Xena is born tonight-- with a new purpose in life--”

I really liked how they intertwined the story of Xena's past with the story of Xena's present. How we see the young friend who loves Xena even more than M'Lila did, struggle to fulfill Xena's last wish to be brought to Nicklio. I loved the way various fades lead from one time period to another, and how it was obvious that recalling her past was putting a strain on our Warrior Princess's will to live.

I found the original script even more interesting in this regard, as they played that loss of will so much more graphically... but then again the end of this ep had to be rewritten to accomodate a newly fractured pelvis sported by the star of the show. Rewritten so that Xena "stayed" dead at the end, and "next week" would be miraculously ressurected by Gabrielle's call back to the land of the living. I also liked the original's script's version of who M'Lila was... which sounded "much more" than "just" a runaway slave. "That" wasn't as obvious in the televised version.

Then again, I preferred the televised ending showing Xena's "Tarturas" was a fire and brimestone kind of existence and she'd hang from a cross for all of eternity if she didn't have the courage to choose her Destiny.

Xena: (Hanging from her cross)“M’Lila.”
M’Lila: “Hello, Xena.”
Xena: “You should have left me to die back there on that beach.”
M’Lila: “You have a destiny, Xena. But you have to choose it.”
Xena: “I did choose it.! I chose evil!”
M’Lila:
“Now that you know evil-- were evil-- you can fight evil... (Xena doesn't look convinced) When the living think of the dead-- the dead can hear their thoughts. Listen.”

This story, so much about Xena and her Destiny, can't be told without remembering that other Destiny becoming so intrically intertwined with Xena's.

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M’Lila: “Now that you know evil-- were evil-- you can fight evil. When the living think of the dead-- the dead can hear their thoughts. Listen.”
Voice of Gabrielle: “Xena-- I know you can hear me-- wherever you are. I know you always told me to be strong. I can’t be-- not now. You can’t leave me. I know it’s not your time. I can feel it in my heart. I feel this emptiness that I’ve never known before, and it scares me. Xena-- above all-- just remember your destiny. Remember it and fight. Just, fight to come back. This world needs you. I need you.”
Xena:
(To M'Lila) “I have to go back.”

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Back to an ep that no-one had planned to film when that season was planned.

An ep in which subtext became the main text?

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"The Quest".
 
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Great performance from Karl Urban as you-know-who, he said his favourite line in the series was 'Break her legs!'. Believe it or not based on a real incident in Julius Caesar's life when he was captured and ransomed by pirates. Interesting that Gabby isn't the first young woman that Xena has an intense relationship with, as time goes on we'll meet more and more of them
 
Great performance from Karl Urban as you-know-who, he said his favourite line in the series was 'Break her legs!'. Believe it or not based on a real incident in Julius Caesar's life when he was captured and ransomed by pirates. Interesting that Gabby isn't the first young woman that Xena has an intense relationship with, as time goes on we'll meet more and more of them


http://whoosh.org/

At whoosh, go to the page discussing "Destiny" http://whoosh.org/epguide/destiny.html and you'll find the original script to Destiny. In it we see the blatant suggestion that M'Lila isn't just a randon young woman with whom Xena has a relationship, but is something much more. One gets the feeling she's a God, and perhaps the antithesis of Ares... which in itself is quite a revelation when you consider the relationship we see develop over the years between Ares and Xena.

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Interesting though the original idea was, I'm glad they didn't go that way after Lucy's accident forced a rewriting of season 2. I'd hate to think Xena was merely the mortal cog in a love triangle between 2 Olympian Gods. I'm happy to think that M'Lila was mortal, just given the opportunity to talk with her fellow mortal in the land of the dead. If TPTB followed their original plan, then even the wonderful Lao Ma would have been just another incarnation of the Olympian God, rather than an enlightened human trying to lead Xena to a new philosophy.

Her intense relationships with men and women are one of the most interesting parts of the show and can always be looked at in different ways... and that's the great fun of them.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd00QFOHW38
 
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Episode 37 season 2 #13 "The Quest"

This isn't a case of taking a lemon and making lemonade.

Its pure alchemy... turning iron into pure GOLD.

YOWZA!

For those who didn't see the last ep, and skipped over the sentence re: how Destiny ends in the post Lucy Lawless pelvic fracture universe... Xena DIES in the home of the healer Nicklio, with Gabrielle kneeling at the bedside, crying her heart out.

There's no last minute reprieve this time, like there was nearly a year ago in the warlord's camp, when a rejuvenated Xena stopped a thug from killing Argo.

Xena isn't merely dead, she's really quite sincerely dead.

And Gabby knows it.

The teaser opens with Gabby awakening from a nightmare, in a cave that is sheltering her and her cargo. The coffin bearing her best friend, Xena.

As she crawls to its highly ornamental/carved side, she says aloud...

Gabrielle: “Every night I see it happen. Every morning, I wish it was
a dream. Xena.”

Renee knows every heartstring to pull, and plays us mercilessly.

Gabby recalls the promise she made to Xena last year, and is trying to bring Xena home to Amphipolis, to lie next to her brother in the family crypt. Unfortunately, word of her death has leaked out and the vultures are circling, trying to steal the body to sell it to any warlord that has the coin.

The only false step in this ep was when Iolaus appeared... scratch that. His appearence was okay, and his fight was a fun respite for a heavy ep, and it was nice that Gabby had someone to talk to besides her dead friend.

Loved the conversation between the two sidekicks about what things Gabby needed to say to Xena... and that once she said them to Iolaus it meant Xena heard them too. It was sweet.

Gabrielle: “But, I miss her. There’s so many things that I wish I could tell her. Why didn’t I when I had the chance?”
Iolaus: “We always think we have... plenty of time. We know people are gonna leave us, but-- we never face up to it. What would you have told her?”
Gabrielle: “I would have told her... how empty my life was before she came; and all the lessons I learned; and that I love her.”
Iolaus: “Gabrielle... you just told her.”

What was false was him leaving her to run back and tell Herc so he "wouldn't hear it 2nd hand". Hey hero... you gonna desert our girl in her quest to bring Xena home? When you already have seen what scum are being attracted by this corpse? Yeah, Hercules is more important than our young Bard. NOT!

But hey... we had to get rid of him somehow, right?


Loved the way the Amazons appeared and all honored Xena by laying their swords on her coffin.

Loved the way Gabby kept telling Xena how she felt... and how she had to let her go so she could move on in the world. Sad.. but true. It also explained why Xena knew where Autolycus should go to find her body.

Hmmm what else did I love?

Ephiny and her crew! The chick (Epony?) with the lockpicking brassiere, and the Amazons that looked like they painted themselves with designs from Xena's breast plates/armor during their dance before their new Queen.

Of course... also loved Xena tricking Autolycus to steal the dagger of helios, and the map to the ambrosia. Loved the fact that Gabby didn't buy his story for a minute, until he "Xena flipped" into view during the funeral and used the chakram left handed, and the whip expertly!

Things I loved to hate?

The EVIL Velasca, who killed Melosa under ????? legitimate circumstances. How dare she complain Gabby betrayed the Amazons by riding off into the sunset atop Xena's coffin! Her whip interrogation of Autolycus was ever so much fun when he complained she was leaving him too early, "I paid for an hour." HOWLLLLLL!!!!!!

But who can focus on Evil Amazons when Xena and Gabby finally meet in the "afterlife".

Xena-in-Autolycus: “Yes, Gabrielle, it’s me. I want you to do something.
Close your eyes. Close them tightly, and think of me.”
Xena: “Gabrielle. Gabrielle. [Gabby opens her eyes and sees Xena before her] It’s me. I’m not dead.”
Gabrielle: [Cries. reaches for her and stops before making contact] “Xena.”
Xena: “At least, not completely.”
Gabrielle: “Why? Why did you leave? There’s so many things I want to say to you.”
Xena: “Gabrielle, you don’t have to say a word. We don’t have much time. I need to get to the ambrosia; otherwise, I will be gone.”
Gabrielle: “Xena, I can’t lose you again.”
Xena: “Gabrielle, I’ll always be here.”
(Xena leans in to kiss Gabrielle... and as the camera circles the two, we see Autolycus' head is finishing the deed. Both he and Gabby look stunned when they part and see each other.)
Autolycus: “Well, I... hope you two worked things out.”
Gabrielle: “We did. Thank you. I mean that.”
Autolycus: “Oh, certainly...whatever’s necessary. I’m here for you both.”
Gabrielle: “Autolycus.”
Autolycus: “Hah?”
Gabrielle: “Get your hand off my butt.”

Hey... this show can't be ALL serious! :rommie:

Great fight between Xena IN Gabrielle and Velasca, along with a great new way to resurrect someone, and a beautiful way to end a simply beautiful show.

So... was this a case of subtext moving into maintext?

Anyone who's listened to me on the Voy boards knows I'm a completely "anti subtext person" between Captain Janeway and Seven of Nine or B'Elanna Torres... but here... I can see it going three ways at this stage. I can see them being the 1) BEST of Friends, "sisters" who truly love each other if not sexually, or I can see them being the 2) best of friends who don't realize yet they are sliding into another world of love, and I can see them being the 3) best of friends who know "that world" is out there... and they may or may not at this point choose to walk into that world.

Of course... since I've seen all 6 seasons... I have my opinion WHERE they end up,,, but here and now? I can see it going all different ways... which allows me to accept "Ulysses" when he shows up at the end of the season. ;)

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Oh, and Gabrielle.... I know she promised to "never die" on you again. I hope you didn't believe her. :devil:
 
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A great, if old, TV guide article with Lucy lawless and Jeri Ryan (Seven of Nine on "Voyager") about "wonder women".

http://whightrabit.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_archive.html

Loved Lucy's line... "... Maybe we've just caught the wave of grrrl power. It's very hard to analyze any of this. I mean, 40 years of feminism has culminated with the Spice Girls..." :bolian:

Burn your bra and stick on a leather bodice/lycra bodysuit instead?:lol:
 
A great, if old, TV guide article with Lucy lawless and Jeri Ryan (Seven of Nine on "Voyager") about "wonder women".

http://whightrabit.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_archive.html

Loved Lucy's line... "... Maybe we've just caught the wave of grrrl power. It's very hard to analyze any of this. I mean, 40 years of feminism has culminated with the Spice Girls..." :bolian:

Burn your bra and stick on a leather bodice/lycra bodysuit instead?:lol:


Yeah... that's what I used to think when I looked at the ads for this show. :guffaw:

But then I watched the campy "If the shoe fits" and I prefer this interpretation.

Xena speaking as Tyrella: "Wow. You know what, Prince? You seem like a real nice fella, so I'm gonna make this nice and simple for ya. I don't need "you", or a fairy godsmother, or anyone else to give me a happy ending. That's something that I'll get, or I won't get, all my own self. So I suggest you peddle this shoe someplace else."

You go, girl!!!!

:bolian:
 
I always get a kick out of important historical figures being referred to casually in fiction. Probably the best example is John Cusack saying, "Come on, Hitler, I'll buy you a glass of lemonade" in the movie "Max". In "Xena: Warrior Princess", I love that moment where Xena is like, "Tell them they'll have to pay us [amount of money], if they ever want to see...what's your name?". "Caesar, Julius Caesar". "...If they ever want to see Caesar, Julius Caesar again. Such an obvious, but perfect 'a-ha!' moment to get the audience excited. :D I thought it was neat how they made Caesar such a bastard too, after Shakespeare had made me unconsciously always thinking of him as a good guy who didn't deserve to die.

I think Urban's Caesar might have been my favourite recurring villain. Urban always played the character's supreme arrogance and confidence so well, especially in that first episode where he's so sure of his destiny, he doesn't have the slightest fear of death. I generally thought Callisto was too over-the-top, but her pairing with Caesar was perfect. Urban makes everyone look good by association. :)

"The Quest" is so great. Autolycus was my favourite recurring character of all, and 'his' kiss with Gabrielle was one of the best moments of the whole series. I love his reaction to her telling him to take his hand off her butt. "CAN YOU IMAGINE?". Bruce Campbell rules. :cool: It was not only one of the funniest episodes, but also one of the few where the melodrama wasn't too corny for me either. Gabrielle's scene grieving over Xena's coffin was really moving, but yeah, the number of times Xena died made later deaths less effective.
 
"The Quest" is so great. Autolycus was my favourite recurring character of all, and 'his' kiss with Gabrielle was one of the best moments of the whole series. I love his reaction to her telling him to take his hand off her butt. "CAN YOU IMAGINE?". Bruce Campbell rules. :cool: It was not only one of the funniest episodes, but also one of the few where the melodrama wasn't too corny for me either. Gabrielle's scene grieving over Xena's coffin was really moving, but yeah, the number of times Xena died made later deaths less effective.

Loved Xena's reaction to Autolycus' "CAN YOU IMAGINE?" :rofl:

Anytime one can say... "the number of times Xena died made later deaths less effective" you know the "later deaths" aren't going to worry you.

TREK SPOILERS AHEAD, from the 1980's and 2002!

Its like the difference between Spock dying in "Wrath of Khan"... and Data dying in Nemesis. Ho hum, yeah, Data's dead, we've seen that before oh and look, we already have a replacement Data available for download, just a little inferior to the "real" one. :rolleyes:

Of course... the Xena PTBs did take that as a challenge, and rose to same in "The Ides of March".

I was NOT concerned, however, in season 6's "When Fates Collide."

Loved the torture scene with Velasca and Auto!

Autolycus: "...But, you see, there’s just one small problem. If I don’t tell you, you’ll kill me. And if I do tell you, you’ll kill me anyway, become a god and terrorize the world. So, either way, there’s very little personal gain for me.” :mallory:
 
A commentary on one of the DVDs has Renee mentioning how fortunate she and Lucy were as actresses to play on a show that had so many strong women characters, both as protagonists and antagonists.

Episode 38, season 2 #14 is a case in point, and this clip doesn't even include Ephiny or Solarie.

(ETA: Replaced discontinued vid)

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"You don't just kill me... and walk away!" :devil:

Rob Tapert and or Lucy Lawless said in another commentary that if you want your heroes to look amazing, you need to pit them against strong villians.

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Even as a fan of Voyager with very strong female protagonists... Xena has us beat in spades when it comes to evil ladies, we just have "a Queen". ;)

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"A Necessary Evil", another episode created to deal with Lucy's fractured pelvis, is another great example of alchemy in the TV writer's room.

But before I wax nostalgic about the ep... perhaps i should say one more thing about the previous ep... "The Quest". The "A" story, as far as I'm concerned, was Xena's Quest to return to the land of the living and to her friend who beseeched her..."I know you can hear me-- wherever you are. I know you always told me to be strong. I can’t be, not now. You can’t leave me. I know it’s not your time. I can feel it in my heart. I feel this emptiness that I’ve never known before, and it scares me. Xena, above all, just remember your destiny. Remember it and fight. Just, fight to come back. This world needs you. I need you."

But there WAS another story, one involving the evil Velasca. An Amazon who killed the true Queen of the Amazons... and someone who also just happened to be her foster Mother. :evil:

Well, the evil Velasca who didn't have the opportunity to meet Xena and Gabby during their previous visit last year, simply expects Gabrielle to hand over the Masque of the Queen's office to her, legalizing her grab for power.

Obviously, she doesn't know Gabrielle too well. :lol:

Gabby keeps the title and is enthrowned as Queen. Then the "you know what" hits the fan... Autolycus steals Xena's body, Gabs runs off with him, there is a schism between the followers of evil Velasca and of good :angel:Ephiny. Evil Velasca throws the good guys into jail, and captures Autolycus and Gabby. Velasca figures out our heroes are after the Ambrosia... the food of the gods which we learn can turn "dead people" into live people, and "live people" into Gods.

Now, perhaps, you can see where this is going. Gabby (under the control of a really pissed off Warrior Princess) fights Velasca, causing the evil Amazon to fall from on high, onto a floor covered in sharp spikes. The ambrosia she was holding has fallen into the fire pit... except a small piece which is captured by Gabby's brassiere. (You had to be there! ;) ) Gabby climbs down to find the good :angel: Amazons have brought Xena's coffin and her body into the temple, where she force feeds Xena's corpse the ambrosia and yet another mournful plea...

Gabrielle: “... Xena. Xena, if you can hear me... come back. Please, come back.”
Xena: (The Warrior Princess' eyes flutter open and she struggles to focus on the blond leaning over her)Gabrielle.”
Gabrielle: “I know. Let’s get you out of here.” :techman:

As we see them leave... another piece of ambrosia falls from the opening in the ceiling, and hits the masonary next to the fire pit. A bloody hand, attached to a bloody evil Amzonian body lying among the sharp spikes... rises shakily towards the object of her evil :evil: desire.

SO!

That was the end of the "B" story of "The Quest".

And now you can guess what "A Necessary Evil" is all about.... CALLISTO!!!!!!!!! :beer:

Gabby is back at the Amazon's camp... and she is giving away her right to be Queen to her good friend Ephiny. Great lines in the teaser... not to mention throughout the ep. The first one that comes to mind was when Ephiny insisted Gabby remain Queen. She would only rule in Gabs absence. Gabrielle turns that cutesy "evil" grin of her's onto Xena and asks...

Gabrielle:Queen Gabrielle. Hmm. Does an Amazon Queen beat a Warrior Princess?”
Xena:
(mock growl) “Do you really wanna find out?”

Everything was going so well for a change... and then Velasca shows up, dripping in blood, dragging a foot behind her, and fixating herself on that stupid masque which confers queenship. Well... she's not just fixated on Queenship right then... GODHOOD looked pretty good to her right about then and she gulps down a handful of ambrosia, healing her wounds, turning her irises white and allowing her hands to throw lightening bolts.

She attacks the Amazons, she tries to kill Gabrielle and Ephiny, and both are (naturally) saved by Xena. Away the tribe runs, seeking shelter to regroup and figure out how to fight a God.

Some great lines are spouted when Xena sends Ephiny out to distract/slow Velasca down while she and Gabrielle go for help.

Xena: “Yes-- I need as many Amazons as possible to delay her. Don’t get anyone killed-- just slow her down. Gabrielle and I need time.”
Ephiny: “Shouldn’t be a problem-- I think I’m high on her list of things to do. Xena, that arm’s dislocated.”
Xena: “Ah, yeah." (Xena runs her right shoulder into a wall) All better now. See?” (She waves the arm she'd been holding all day.)
Ephiny: “Yeah.” (She leaves)
Xena: “You all right?”
Gabrielle: “Yeah, yeah, you know? Ephiny may be high on the list, but I’m on top. I’ve never been a target before... I mean, I’ve never been hunted. Xena, what are we gonna do... against a god?”
Xena: “Well, we need some help, that’s for sure-- and to fight an immortal, I need an immortal.”
Gabrielle: “Do you know where you can find one?”
Xena: “Yes... yes I do.”

Now... had I been smart and taken Forbin's suggestion the frst time around, I would have seen the Hercules ep where Callisto came back from death, and ate from the tree of life in order to turn herself into an immortal.

Now... WHY someone who WANTS to die, decided she had to turn herself into an immortal.... well. THAT'S why I have to buy Hercules: Legendary Journeys! ;)


But right now...WHO CARES WHY!!!!

She's back!!!!!!! :beer:

Love love loved the way Callisto tried to doublecross Xena in her first fight with Velasca.

Adored the way Callisto put Velasca in a headlock, making her drop Xena from the choke grip with yet another great line... "You don't just kill me... and walk away!" :devil:

Truly loved the scene where Xena and Callisto are teamed up to sword fight the burgeoning goddess Velasca. Kewl :mallory::bolian:

I wanted to warn Gabby from trying to "talk" to Callisto, and laughed despite myself when Xena asked Callisto what was wrong with Gabby as she ran from the campfire and Callisto shrugged... “We played a game of truth or dare, and she’s not very good at it.” :devil:

There were a lot of quiet moments in this ep... even one between Gabby and Callisto... before she got all witchy on our young Bard. :wtf: Ones between Xena and Callisto over the campfire as they plot how to take down Velasca...

Xena: “No, no. No, she’s grown too strong. We have to lure her there.”
Callisto: “Well, we have perfect bait for that. It’s your precious little Gabrielle she wants.”
Xena: “I know.”

Between Xena and Gabrielle, as the young Amazon Queen decides she must die for the greater good.

Gabrielle: “I’m the bait. If it means getting on that rope bridge--”
Xena: “Sacrificing you is not part of the plan... not even close. And it’s not just Velasca we need to get on that bridge, it’s Callisto as well. If I’m right, they’ll be so busy fighting one another, that they won’t notice me cutting the ropes.”
Gabrielle: “Let’s do it.”

Humor has followed us throughout this ep... and I love it when Callisto jumps Velasca from behind, and cuts the purse hanging from Velasca's belt. Gabby scoops up the purse with its Ambrosia, and is kicked halfway across the rope bridge by Velasca. Callisto stabs the "Goddess to be" and runs out to where Gabby is hanging from the bridge. Velasca pulls Callisto's dagger from her midriff and utters...

Velasca: “Oh... she’s gotta go.” :evil:

And Callisto, after chomping on the Ambrosia that Gabby threw her... utters that other famous line as her eyes turn god-white..."Here comes trouble!" :devil:

But the REAL God of the story, the Mary Sue that even when she does do harm, can somehow get away with it in the end... is the Warrior Princess who owes more than her life to Gabrielle. She shows us yet again that you don't just stand there... you ACT!

Gabrielle: “Xena!”
Xena:
“Hold on, Gabrielle!”
Gabrielle: “I can’t hold on! Hurry! Just do it! Cut the rope!”
Xena: “Hold on!”
Gabrielle:
“Do it! Xena, I can’t hold on!”
Xena: “Gabrielle-- don’t take your eyes off me!”
Gabrielle:
“Hurry!”
(Xena has tied a rope about her waist... she has taken her chakram in her hand and cut 1 of the 2 hand rail ropes that the godesses were holding while they fought each other... causing them both to fall into the river of lava below. She then takes one step back... and a FLYING LEAP FORWARD just as Gabrielle's grip on the rope bridge fails and she falls towards that fatal fire of molten rock.)
Xena: “I got’cha! I got’cha!”

Of course you do... Xena. :)

Its like what Gabrielle told you at the end of "The Quest".

Gabrielle : “You know, for a few moments, I knew what it was like to be you.”
Xena: “And?”
Gabrielle : “It was warm, friendly, loving--”
Xena: “Gabrielle, it was a fight.”
Gabrielle : “I felt protected. The world needs people like that ... right?”
Xena: “Right.”

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Always great to see Callisto back and Hudson and Melinda used to have a great double act at the conventions. If you ever wondered what happened to Valesca Charon the boatman across the Styx remarks he took her to the afterlife in a future ep so she either died in the lava or was killed by Herc or someone offscreen.

Great acting by Callisto with her 'Run away' speech and the fireside scene between her and Gabby is terrific, you actually feel sorry for her before she sticks the boot in

Darn it, i wish you could get Xena DVDs with commentaries outside the US!
 
Always great to see Callisto back and Hudson and Melinda used to have a great double act at the conventions. If you ever wondered what happened to Valesca Charon the boatman across the Styx remarks he took her to the afterlife in a future ep so she either died in the lava or was killed by Herc or someone offscreen.

Great acting by Callisto with her 'Run away' speech and the fireside scene between her and Gabby is terrific, you actually feel sorry for her before she sticks the boot in

Darn it, i wish you could get Xena DVDs with commentaries outside the US!

You can't?

There are a fair number on Youtube.... its one of the things that made me buy the set since the shipper vids only give you one view of the show. ;)

The video versions of the commentaries are quite abridged although occasionally I hear something I didn't hear when I listened to the audio version (Audio version is when the actor, writer, producer sits and watches the whole show and comments on the whole show. The video version is quite a bit shaved down, but its fun to see how the actresses sometimes react to their own performances.)

Season 3

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episode 39 season 2 #15 "A Day in the Life"

If you don't have time to read the review... just watch this.

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The only things its missing are the lines after "some guys like blue eyes and leather"...

Gab's: "You could wear chainmail."... and Xena's retort"Yeah, but it might draw a kinkier crowd."

And Minya's instruction on property rights to Xena. " The whip is mine, the frying pan is your's. HOWER is mine. 'She's' yours." :guffaw:

What a fun show, from beginning to end.

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The subtexters must have been in heaven, from the bath to the final bedroll scene. The "friends forever" crowd must have been in heaven from the opening banter, to the running gags over the frying pan and the 20 questions game that Gabs has invented, not to mention the "trying to get a drop" on Xena game (howled when Gabs pulled herself upright using Xena's breast armor.).

I remember traveling for 6 weeks with a friend after graduation, and there were times when we really got on each other's nerves... but in the end we realized our "fights" weren't fights at all. Just like Xena and Gabby as Gareth closed in on the village and they realized they were acting childishly over frying pans, chakrams, scrolls and whips. Because, in the end. Minya WAS right, whether you are in the subtexters camp or the friends forever camp.

Xena and Gabs belong together. :bolian:

Even if they do sleep with their boots on. :vulcan:


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episode 39 season 2 #15 "A Day in the Life"

If you don't have time to read the review... just watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2X9L8akKgE

The only things its missing are the lines after "some guys like blue eyes and leather"...

Gab's: "You could wear chainmail."... and Xena's retort"Yeah, but it might draw a kinkier crowd."

And Minya's instruction on property rights to Xena. " The whip is mine, the frying pan is your's. HOWER is mine. 'She's' yours." :guffaw:

What a fun show, from beginning to end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt3aHh-ssV0

The subtexters must have been in heaven, from the bath to the final bedroll scene. The "friends forever" crowd must have been in heaven from the opening banter, to the running gags over the frying pan and the 20 questions game that Gabs has invented, not to mention the "trying to get a drop" on Xena game (howled when Gabs pulled herself upright using Xena's breast armor.).

I remember traveling for 6 weeks with a friend after graduation, and there were times when we really got on each other's nerves... but in the end we realized our "fights" weren't fights at all. Just like Xena and Gabby as Gareth closed in in the village and they realized they were acting childishly over frying pans, chakrams, scrolls and whips. Because, in the end. Minya WAS right, whether you are in the subtexters camp or the friends forever camp.

Xena and Gabs belong together. :bolian:

Even if they do sleep with their boots on. :vulcan:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClvuD4xij4Y&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNFLrSVNh48&feature=related

Yeah, great ep:) Nice to see Minya and the hot-tub scene is just:drool:
Note when Hower asks Gabby if Xena ever thinks of 'settling down' with a guy she replies that Xena likes "what I do...what she does too much";)
 
episode 39 season 2 #15 "A Day in the Life"

If you don't have time to read the review... just watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2X9L8akKgE

The only things its missing are the lines after "some guys like blue eyes and leather"...

Gab's: "You could wear chainmail."... and Xena's retort"Yeah, but it might draw a kinkier crowd."

And Minya's instruction on property rights to Xena. " The whip is mine, the frying pan is your's. HOWER is mine. 'She's' yours." :guffaw:

What a fun show, from beginning to end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt3aHh-ssV0

The subtexters must have been in heaven, from the bath to the final bedroll scene. The "friends forever" crowd must have been in heaven from the opening banter, to the running gags over the frying pan and the 20 questions game that Gabs has invented, not to mention the "trying to get a drop" on Xena game (howled when Gabs pulled herself upright using Xena's breast armor.).

I remember traveling for 6 weeks with a friend after graduation, and there were times when we really got on each other's nerves... but in the end we realized our "fights" weren't fights at all. Just like Xena and Gabby as Gareth closed in in the village and they realized they were acting childishly over frying pans, chakrams, scrolls and whips. Because, in the end. Minya WAS right, whether you are in the subtexters camp or the friends forever camp.

Xena and Gabs belong together. :bolian:

Even if they do sleep with their boots on. :vulcan:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClvuD4xij4Y&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNFLrSVNh48&feature=related

Yeah, great ep:) Nice to see Minya and the hot-tub scene is just:drool:
Note when Hower asks Gabby if Xena ever thinks of 'settling down' with a guy she replies that Xena likes "what I do...what she does too much";)

Yeah, that was funny, esp as I don't think it was scripted that way. Just "she likes what she does".. :rommie: . Whoosh mentioned that the week before this aired, Lucy and Rob Tapert announced their engagement, and his credits for this show appeared when Hower asked Gabrielle about Xena ever settling down. :bolian:
 
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