Any OZ fans here?

[Top41]

I concur on the sentiment of watching the whole show. Yeah, there are a few rough spots here and there, but overall the entire series is fantastic. The final season did some very interesting things I thought.

Top, the way you go on about Alvarez is EXACTLY how I felt about Kenny. I could not stand that little punk and I wanted to strangle him every single time he opened his mouth. Oddly, I didn't mind Alvarez as much, perhaps because I like Kirk Acevedo as an actor (I had previously seen him on Law & Order: Trial by Jury and Band of Brothers). Yeah, he can be annnoying, but not nearly as annoying as Kenny. But different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I'm not a big fan of Kenny, either. I think he's a selfish little punk, too, and it pissed me off that he went along with Adebisi's plan to screw over McManus, especially after McManus went out of his way to help Kenny in season two with school. I don't think Kenny feels any more remorse than Alvarez, but it's Alvarez's unrelenting self-pity in the face of all the terrible things he's done that really makes me loathe him. The only person he really feels sorry for is himself, and that's pretty revolting.

By the way, I'm LOVING reading your comments for each episode. I've only seen the series once and it was a few years ago, but it's thrilling to relive the series if only through your comments. There are some things from the show that I've forgotten about, while others I can't wait to see your reaction to when they come to pass. Don't feel too bad about watching it so quickly. I think I watched about a season a day. I was more addicted than you!

Enjoy.

Oh, I'd probably be watching it more quickly if I had the time! I might do a marathon tomorrow or Monday before I go back to work. And I appreciate everyone who is coming into this thread to talk to me about the series--it's really fun having people to discuss it with!

I watched the deleted scenes for the third season. Some of them were brief little scenes, but there was one with the Weigert doctor where it really humanized him--he talked about performing abortions before they were legal and how accidentally killing a girl changed his youthful ideals. He was a pretty cardboard villain during the first half of the season, so I kind of wish they'd left that scene in--it really gives a new perspective on him.

There were two with Beecher I really liked--one where he goes to McManus to talk about his guilt in Andy Schillinger's death and to accuse McManus of being a party to it, too. I wish they'd left that in--when I was watching the season, I knew Andy's death had to be eating at Beecher, and I wanted to see a little more of that. He's not like Keller and O'Reilly, who can kill and manipulate without a second thought. He's got a conscience. And even though his part was really just goading Vern, I'm glad we saw him taking responsibility and wanting to make amends. Though the attempt to make amends in the seventh episode is exactly why I think Beecher is still pretty naive. Still, I love him for trying!

The other scene I liked was from episode eight when Sister Pete and Father Mukada are passing out holiday presents in the ward. Schillinger and Beecher are tied to their beds so they don't kill each other. Beecher talks briefly to Sister Pete and tells her that Keller saved his life. You can tell that was a real turning point for him--the moment he really decided to trust Keller again. I'm kind of surprised Sister Pete didn't say more, especially since she no longer trusts Keller, but maybe she thought she wouldn't be unbiased.

I got a few episodes of season four to watch on the plane today, so I will probably end up seeing a few more before the day is out!

 

[Lord Garth]

I'm not a big fan of Kenny, either. I think he's a selfish little punk, too, and it pissed me off that he went along with Adebisi's plan to screw over McManus, especially after McManus went out of his way to help Kenny in season two with school. I don't think Kenny feels any more remorse than Alvarez

I'm another non-fan of Kenny. I don't think he cares about what happens to McManus at all but he's not the type who'd want to portray himself as a victim of harassment. He wants to have swagger but, as you said, Adebisi showed him who's boss. So, in Kenny's thug mind, he'll just go with whatever Adebisi thinks until the time is right to take him out (yeah, right, like that's gonna happen!).

 

[byron lomax]

The third season was pretty great overall, even though the boxing subplot is something I don't care for. The only real disappointment for me was that Antonio Nappa died far too quickly. I felt his character had more potential, and that Fontana removed him because he didn't want too many similarities to the Sopranos. The same applies to another character who bites it early in season four.

I thought making Chucky as the leader of the Italians was a big step down from Nappa and Nino Schibetta, and it wasn't long before the Italians would fade into the background by the last two seasons.

 

[Top41]

^Yeah, I really liked the third season overall. So far, I'm just loving the show. I wonder if the shorter seasons (only eight episodes each) really help tighten up storylines. It seems like a lot happens each season, in a relatively short amount of time. There aren't really any bad episodes--even if there's a storyline I don't care for as much, it only takes up part of the episode.

I watched the first two episodes of season four! I can't believe McManus was fired! And Diane is gone... I'm assuming that has something to do with Edie Falco being a regular on The Sopranos? I'm sorry to see her go, but I'm glad her character got a happy send off.

The shootout was shocking!! Man, Adebisi played that perfectly, didn't he? The man is as good as Ryan O'Reily when it comes to manipulating a situation to his benefit. He was smart not to use that gun himself, and obviously was very careful in his selection of who to give it to. And then he got Kenny, Poet and Junior transferred back into Em City--man, masterfully played! Can't believe Kenny actually got killed--I guess unlike Alvarez, he doesn't have nine lives.

BTW, wouldn't that gun have been registered to Hughes? Or are we to assume that he was smart enough not to give Adebisi his own gun.

Alvarez escaped yet another attempt on his life and has now apparently escaped with Bushmalis. Can he stay gone for a while, please? He's the one inmate I wouldn't mind seeing die, but hey, as long as he's off the screen....

I'm curious to see what it will be like when the O'Reily brothers meet with Gloria and her in-laws. You can totally tell Ryan isn't sorry in the least, though Cyril obviously is. It was kind of refreshing to see Ryan one-upped for once by Stanislovsky... that guy is pretty good at surviving, too.

I'm guessing Keller and Beecher spent those two weeks in lock down getting it on! Keller has definitely gone caveman on Beecher... looking Said in the eye when he said he made the decision that Beecher wouldn't do anything about the Schillinger situation, touching Beecher sexually in front of the other inmates, etc. I didn't think Beecher would react well to being told what to do like Keller owns him. Beecher spent a year as Schillinger's "bitch"--he's not going to want to repeat that, even in a loving relationship. That being said, I think Keller is right--Beecher should just leave the situation with Schillinger alone. And I will say this... when Beecher was hugging Keller's pillow and curling up in his bed, he did remind me a little bit of a teenage girl. He should just let Keller protect him and take care of him and be happy. Yeah, Keller's more than a bit of a caveman, but if Beecher loves him "too much" then he should just try to find some balance in the relationship and accept that Keller is, well, what he is. It's better than crying into a pillow. I hope Keller is going to be okay--he wasn't in the episode at all, so I'm guessing the gunshot wound is what takes him out the series for a bit?

Beecher is right about Said--he's always looking for something to rail against. I can't believe after all of that, he didn't go to testify at the trial. I'm glad Beecher did. I have a feeling Said's beliefs are going to tank his relationship with Tricia Ross, too.

Are we ever going to find out who Shirley Bellinger is sleeping with? I have a feeling it's that neo Nazi guard, but I'm not sure.

Is the moment of humanity for Schillinger when he's with his son? I did feel just a little bit bad for him that he was so happy to see Hank, knowing that Hank was only there because he was being paid.

I wonder if Glynn is going to run for Lt. Governor with Devlin! I'm totally pulling for Case, but unless the show can get Charles S. Dutton to make more appearances, I'm guessing Devlin will somehow prevail.

All in all, two great episodes! I will probably try to watch a bunch more in the next two days, before I have to go back to work.

 

[DevilEyes]

^Yeah, I really liked the third season overall. So far, I'm just loving the show. I wonder if the shorter seasons (only eight episodes each) really help tighten up storylines. It seems like a lot happens each season, in a relatively short amount of time. There aren't really any bad episodes--even if there's a storyline I don't care for as much, it only takes up part of the episode.

I watched the first two episodes of season four! I can't believe McManus was fired! And Diane is gone... I'm assuming that has something to do with Edie Falco being a regular on The Sopranos? I'm sorry to see her go, but I'm glad her character got a happy send off.

Yes, she left to star on The Sopranos, and she doesn't come back. Kirk Acevedo was shooting Band of Brothers, that's why Alvarez had to be removed from the show for a while.

The shootout was shocking!! Man, Adebisi played that perfectly, didn't he? The man is as good as Ryan O'Reily when it comes to manipulating a situation to his benefit. He was smart not to use that gun himself, and obviously was very careful in his selection of who to give it to. And then he got Kenny, Poet and Junior transferred back into Em City--man, masterfully played! Can't believe Kenny actually got killed--I guess unlike Alvarez, he doesn't have nine lives.

No, Kenny is dead!

I doubt that Adebisi was sad to see him go - I don't think he forgot Kenny's role in the death of the old priest Jara. I think he just figured he should show Kenny who's the boss and use him for a while until he doesn't need him anymore.

I think that Adebisi was just using the whole race issue to his own ends - I don't think he really feels any kind of kinship or cares about the Homeboys in Oz any more than about anyone else; there's the issue of Kenny's involvement murder of Adebisi's father-figure Kipekemie Jara, and after all, as he said, "They're not my people - I am African..." (The only time Adebisi seems to have felt some sort of identity was under the influence of Jara.)

Although, it eventually does turn out that there's still one person that Adebisi genuinely respects and who is sort of important to him... but I shouldn't spoil the upcoming episodes...

BTW, wouldn't that gun have been registered to Hughes? Or are we to assume that he was smart enough not to give Adebisi his own gun.

I suppose it wasn't registered to him, since they didn't trace it back, and even Hughes can't be that much of a moron... although he is quite a moron anyway, as you see later (no, you haven't seen the last of Hughes)!

I hope Keller is going to be okay--he wasn't in the episode at all, so I'm guessing the gunshot wound is what takes him out the series for a bit?

No, he'll be back soon.

Are we ever going to find out who Shirley Bellinger is sleeping with? I have a feeling it's that neo Nazi guard, but I'm not sure.

It's not necessarily just one person...

Is the moment of humanity for Schillinger when he's with his son? I did feel just a little bit bad for him that he was so happy to see Hank, knowing that Hank was only there because he was being paid.

Not really... Oz can be such a deceptive show...

I better keep my mouth shut about the developments in the next episodes...

 

[Top41]

Yes, she left to star on The Sopranos, and she doesn't come back. Kirk Acevedo was shooting Band of Brothers, that's why Alvarez had to be removed from the show for a while.

Damn, oh well! At least he's gone for a while. I cannot stand his whiny ass!

No, Kenny is dead!

I doubt that Adebisi was sad to see him go - I don't think he forgot Kenny's role in the death of the old priest Jara. I think he just figured he should show Kenny who's the boss and use him for a while until he doesn't need him anymore.

Yeah, I got the feeling Adebisi really engineered that perfectly and was thrilled to see it unfold pretty much according to plan. He got rid of Kenny without having to lift a finger.

I watched the third episode of the fourth season! Man, poor Beecher... Keller was so right. I can't believe Schillinger went after his kids. I mean, I can, given what happened with Andy, but man, Schillinger is just pretty much evil personified. Beecher should have just listened to Keller. Speaking of, their reunion was pretty cute. Poor Beecher is kind of like a teenage girl in love ("I know he's bad for me, but I love him anyway!"). I just hope Keller is going to treat him well--at least for a while!

Man, I cannot believe Ryan had Dr. Nathan raped!! That's just sick. Even sicker than having her husband killed. Twisted as that was, I at least believed he believed he loved her. But now... man, he's just so messed up. I'm kind of surprised Sister Pete let the intervention go on after Ryan mentioned McManus.

Watching Ryan and Stanislovsky try to screw each other over and fail at every turn cracked me up big time.

Bushmalis did not get far. I can't believe he was caught stalking Miss Sally! That was hilarious.

Looks like the gulf between Said and the other Muslims is widening. I felt bad for him when Tricia said she was leaving. I mean, her point of view is totally understandable, but still... Said must feel so alone.

Redabow actually killed Hernandez! I guess he got away with it as planned?

I knew that neo Nazi guard was the one sleeping with Shirley Bellinger! I wonder if her story about her husband's father raping her was true. You just never know with her!

Great episode... I might watch more tonight.

 

[DevilEyes]

Man, I cannot believe Ryan had Dr. Nathan raped!! That's just sick.

Don't speak too soon. Are you sure that's what happened? Did you actually see him order someone to do it?

I knew that neo Nazi guard was the one sleeping with Shirley Bellinger! I wonder if her story about her husband's father raping her was true. You just never know with her!

I thought it was true and that it was one of the reasons why she was so messed up, and why she got the twisted idea that her daughter was "devil's child". She couldn't have been always that crazy? Maybe she was always a bit unhinged, but some of the stuff she said in Oz made her look certifiably insane. I wonder why her defense didn't try to use it in court, and if they did, why it didn't work.

 

[Top41]

Don't speak too soon. Are you sure that's what happened? Did you actually see him order someone to do it?

Just watched the next episode, and wow, I guess Ryan didn't! It was totally set up in the last episode so we'd think he did, since he made a phone call right before it happened ordering someone to have something done. I guess he really must love Gloria, since what confessing to having someone rape her even when he hadn't was an act of genuine kindness that cost him dearly. I have a newfound respect for the guy.

I thought it was true and that it was one of the reasons why she was so messed up, and why she got the twisted idea that her daughter was "devil's child". She couldn't have been always that crazy? Maybe she was always a bit unhinged, but some of the stuff she said in Oz made her look certifiably insane. I wonder why her defense didn't try to use it in court, and if they did, why it didn't work.

I know--she really seemed genuinely insane. The execution was pretty hard to watch, especially when she finally lost it right when she saw the rope and the noose. I'm sorry to see her go--I really found her a fascinating character. She said "neither rain nor snow" as a hint for who got her pregnant--I have no idea what that means! Does anyone here know??

The fourth episode of the third season was excellent. My heart was breaking for Beecher when he found out about his kids, and then when he heard about the hand in the mail. Seriously, is there a more evil human being on this show than Vern Schillinger??

Loved Keller's return--the way he tried to act all macho in front of Beecher initially, and then broke down later. And now he's trying to get to Sister Pete because he thinks if she doesn't leave the convent, he won't go to hell. Oh, Keller, that is so the least of your worries, pal.

I also loved the moment where Beecher confessed to his parents that he and Keller are lovers. I'm glad Beecher knows that Keller doesn't have anything to do with the kidnapping.

Good to see McManus back! Not sure what i think of this new guy running Em City. Is he the one Adebisi respects? I do think his policy is sound--no violence in exchange for looking the other way on the drug issue seems like a fair exchange to me.

Not sure what I think of this undercover guy yet--he knows who is running the drugs, so why hasn't he busted them?? And now he's getting hooked himself, apparently.

Rebadow and Bushmalis crack me up. OK, off to watch another episode (or two).

 

[Top41]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Schillinger had his son kill Beecher's son???????? And then made him think Keller was responsible???

That was probably the most gut-wrenching episode to date. Great episode, but seriously painful to watch.

Please tell me O'Reily is going to kill the guy who raped Dr. Nathan!

And what the hell is up with Rebadow turning into a serial killer?

I'm totally into this show, but this is the first time watching an episode has seriously left me majorly unsettled.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Just keep watching!

The shootout was shocking!! Man, Adebisi played that perfectly, didn't he? The man is as good as Ryan O'Reily when it comes to manipulating a situation to his benefit. He was smart not to use that gun himself, and obviously was very careful in his selection of who to give it to. And then he got Kenny, Poet and Junior transferred back into Em City--man, masterfully played! Can't believe Kenny actually got killed--I guess unlike Alvarez, he doesn't have nine lives.

No, Kenny is dead!

Amen! You have no idea how happy I was to see that little shit die!

 

[Top41]

^I bet you were! I thought of you when he died, lol.

So I watched another episode--it's an official marathon. The sixth episode of the season. I knew O'Reilly would kill the scumbag who raped Dr. Nathan! I'm glad Sister Pete told Dr. Nathan that O'Reilly didn't set up the rape. I hope Dr. Nathan comes back soon--I like her.

Man, Rebadow has turned into quite the psycho! I knew he'd try to kill Bushmalis. I'm glad he didn't succeed.

That undercover guy has become a total addict. He came close to blowing his cover when he slipped out of the accent with Augustus... I have a feeling he's gonna end up going down hard.

I'm glad they caught Hank Schillinger, but man, I wish Keller had forgiven Beecher. I get why he was hurt--and you could tell he was totally crushed by the fact that Beecher had suspected him--but come on... Beecher had literally been through hell. And it seems like Keller is hurting just as bad as Beecher is... that burn looked damn painful. I was surprised he confessed to killing those men--I was kind of hoping he hadn't. I guess he did tell Beecher the truth before the funeral when he told him he was the only guy he'd ever loved. Still--it's hard to reconcile feeling bad for such a sociopath, but I do believe he really does love Beecher.

Man, poor Beecher just gets treated like chattel, doesn't he? I guess he consented with Mondo to get back at Keller... and to avoid feeling like he was being raped again. Is there anyone in Oz other than O'Reilly who doesn't want to have Beecher? He's like the belle of the ball... not that it's an enviable position. I hope he and Keller get back together soon.

I am not sure what to make of this new head of Em City, but I have a feeling he's bad news. He's a little too willing to play with the power players in Em City, and it seems like everyone he's moving out of the unit is white. Somehow, I don't think that's going to ease racial tensions...

OK, one more tonight. Or maybe two.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

That's what every addict says, and then the next thing you know, it's 8am, you haven't slept a wink and you're late to work/class!

 

[DevilEyes]

Wow, you really are watching fast!! I'm not surprised, it is so addictive... I remember the first part of season 4* as the most intense, gut-wrenching part of the show, and that's saying something considering what the entire show is like!

*Although, season 4 is practically two seasons going as one: it had 16 episodes while others had 8, and there was apparently a 6 months break between episode 8 (August 2000) and episode 9 (January 2001). And episode 8 felt like a season finale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oz_episodes#Season_4_.282000-2001.29

I thought it was true and that it was one of the reasons why she was so messed up, and why she got the twisted idea that her daughter was "devil's child". She couldn't have been always that crazy? Maybe she was always a bit unhinged, but some of the stuff she said in Oz made her look certifiably insane. I wonder why her defense didn't try to use it in court, and if they did, why it didn't work.

I know--she really seemed genuinely insane. The execution was pretty hard to watch, especially when she finally lost it right when she saw the rope and the noose. I'm sorry to see her go--I really found her a fascinating character. She said "neither rain nor snow" as a hint for who got her pregnant--I have no idea what that means! Does anyone here know??

I didn't know that at first either, but apparently "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds" is often thought of as the motto of the US Postal Service. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service_creed Remember who works as a postman in Oz... Also, do you remember that Schillinger mentioned that Shirley reminded him of his late wife? Kinda explains Shirley's belief that her new child was also fathered by Satan...

Good to see McManus back! Not sure what i think of this new guy running Em City. Is he the one Adebisi respects?

Nah, Adebisi and Querns just have a partnership of convenience.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

*Although, season 4 is practically two seasons going as one: it had 16 episodes while others had 8, and there was apparently a 6 months break between episode 8 (August 2000) and episode 9 (January 2001). And episode 8 felt like a season finale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oz_episodes#Season_4_.282000-2001.29

Because of this, I essentially consider the second half of season 4, season 5 and so on. Thematically, it makes sense. The only reason to call it otherwise because they're production seasons.

 

[Top41]

That's what every addict says, and then the next thing you know, it's 8am, you haven't slept a wink and you're late to work/class!

LOL, I probably would have kept going, but I got a migraine so I was only able to watch one more episode. I don't go back to work until tomorrow, though, so no doubt I will fit a few more episodes in today.

Wow, you really are watching fast!! I'm not surprised, it is so addictive... I remember the first part of season 4* as the most intense, gut-wrenching part of the show, and that's saying something considering what the entire show is like!

Yeah, the stuff with Beecher's kids killed me. There's something so endearing and vulnerable about Beecher. He and Said are really the only two genuinely good men in the prison as far as I can tell. Which isn't to say I don't like a lot of the others--I do--but when it comes to really sympathizing with the inmates in Oz, well, these two pretty much always have my sympathies.

*Although, season 4 is practically two seasons going as one: it had 16 episodes while others had 8, and there was apparently a 6 months break between episode 8 (August 2000) and episode 9 (January 2001). And episode 8 felt like a season finale. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Oz_episodes#Season_4_.282000-2001.29

Interesting! I have to say, I'm so excited that season four is as long as it is. I just realized I'm more than halfway through the series. I can't wait to find out what happens, but I don't want it to end!!

I didn't know that at first either, but apparently "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds" is often thought of as the motto of the US Postal Service. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service_creed Remember who works as a postman in Oz... Also, do you remember that Schillinger mentioned that Shirley reminded him of his late wife? Kinda explains Shirley's belief that her new child was also fathered by Satan...

Yes! Mukada figured that out in the next episode. And Shirley was right about her child being fathered by Satan in that case. Kind of glad there's not another Schillinger spawn running around.

Nah, Adebisi and Querns just have a partnership of convenience.

Is it Said then? Adebisi seemed genuinely thrilled when Said agreed to join him, and immediately elevated him to the status of an equal, which surprised me a bit. I'm curious to see what Said's plan is. I love that he and McManus have joined forces to regain control of Oz! I don't like that Querns guy--he's letting way more than a few drugs slide. I gotta say, in the beginning, I thought that wasn't a bad plan, but now that I can see how far it's gone... yeah, not a good idea at all.

Howell and Ryan??? Oh my!! And he got her to kill Stanislovsky for him?? (I can't remember if this was episode 6 or 7, which was the last one I watched--I watched a lot of Oz last night. ) Given that he's still mooning over Gloria, I'm sure he's using Howell.

I wonder if she's going to get caught for killing Stanislovsky... I'm realizing that a lot of people don't get caught for what they do in Oz! Beecher got away with killing Metzger (though that was arguably self-defense), Rebadow for killing Hernandez, Ryan for killing Gloria's rapist, and now Howell... there have been a lot of others, too.

Why does this undercover cop need more evidence?? Or is he just making excuses to stay in Oz and keep using heroin?

It cracked me up when Said actually called Beecher a slut! But he's right--it seems like Beecher is putting out for anyone and everyone. I love that Said cares enough to confront him--their friendship is one of my favorite relationships on Oz. I can't believe Hank got off on a technicality--wtf??--and I wasn't surprised when Beecher went to Pacamo to have him offed. Much as I totally sided with Beecher, I'm glad he tried to call off the hit--there's a line I don't want him to cross. I guess it was too late, though, and I can't say I'm sorry about that, either.

I can't believe Keller won't help Beecher! He's obviously still in love with Beecher--anyone can see that. I hope he changes his mind because I think if he reached out to Beecher, that would have an effect. There are a lot of reasons Beecher hates himself right now, but I think that Keller could get through to him. In a forceful, caveman, Keller way, but still.

I will probably watch a few more episodes today...

 

[Top41]

I watched episode eight of season four and... holy crap, Said killed Adebisi!! With as many deaths as there have been on the show, I feel like this is the first "major" one--a character that has been on the show since the beginning and has been a huge fixture and power player. I was so worried it was going to go the other way... I love Said! I didn't want him to die. McManus has to know that was in self-defense, right?? I don't want to see Said end up on death row.

I was surprised that Adebisi just handed over the tape to Said in the end, and felt kind of bad that him doing that resulted in him getting transferred out of Em City. I was not sorry to see Querns go, though! He was a bad guy. I really liked the actor who played him though--I'll have to look that guy up and see what his name is. He seemed familiar.

McManus is back running Em City!! Hell yeah!!! Nicely played, Keller and O'Reilly. Keller sure has a sick way of showing Beecher he still loves him--killing all the guys Beecher slutted around with. How is it that Keller can be a complete and total psychopath, and yet pretty sympathetic at the same time? I'm just like, "Dude, just tell Beecher you love him and want him back!" I want to know if he's going to get back in Beecher's pod now that he killed Beecher's roommate.

O'Reilly once again played things masterfully. Loved the team up between him and Keller--they had the same goals, and Keller of course was thrilled that it allowed him to kill Beecher's lovers. O'Reilly and Keller could be really, really dangerous together. Very well played especially in the framing of Supreme Allah.

I gotta say, I think the way Moses killed Miles (I think that was his name--the mean white-haired dude on death row who painted a mural of himself on the wall of his cell) was very poetic.

I guess Hughes' bullets didn't kill Devlin--figures that guy survived! Is Hughes going to end up in Oz??

All in all, a great half-season (or season, since you guys said the second half is like a new season). I can't wait to watch more. I love this show!!!

 

[Lord Garth]

All in all, a great half-season

The lack of Alvarez probably helped too.

 

[Top41]

All in all, a great half-season

The lack of Alvarez probably helped too.

Oh yes, yes it did!

So while I was building one bookshelf and trying to save another (unsuccessfully ), I watched episodes 9-12 of season four! I probably won't hit on everything, but here goes.

I just finished ep 12, so I have to say, oh holy crap what Keller did for Beecher was romantic. Or at least as close to romantic as this show gets, lol. That was the ultimate act of love--and unselfish love at that. Keller's obsession with Beecher and the way he was killing all of his lovers was getting freaky, and I know he's a twisted SOB, but seeing how protective he ultimately is of Beecher at every turn--whether it be to tell Ryan O'Reilly not to hurt Beecher (and for once, O'Reilly listened!) or how frantic he was to protect Beecher from Schillinger made me totally convinced he genuinely does love Beecher. Sure it's an obsessive, dangerous love... but it's love.

Is this the point when Keller is gone for a while so Meloni could film SUV? I'm going to miss him--he's definitely one of my favorite characters.

Oh, and a totally shallow note: when Beecher and Keller make out, it's totally hot.

The drug trial thing was freaky! I assume it ended when that neo Nazi dude dropped dead. And I guess Beecher and O'Reilly were both on the placebo. BTW, why the hell did Beecher volunteer for that? He's up for parole in like four years, isn't he? So that should be coming up soon. So dumb of him, but I guess that fits the self-destructive streak. So is Cyril going to have grey hair from here on in? That poor guy--he always seems to be the one who pays for Ryan's crimes.

Dr. Nathan loves Ryan!! Oh wow! I wonder if that will end up going anywhere. Howell is such a twisted biatch... I guess she doesn't have to take no for an answer. Are she and Ryan done?

The news program episode was interesting, but kind of silly, too. Why would the segment producer be interested in doing a story on Beecher and Keller's love affair? Then they went for Said killing Adebisi, and then had the reporter guy sleep in a cell with an inmate. It stretched credibility a bit, but it was fun.

McManus got stabbed! Is he going to be okay? Is something starting between him and Dr. Nathan? He is such a player, that guy.

Not sure the Chinese refugees in Oz added anything overall, but it was fun to see Miles from Lost in a totally different role!

Vern Schillinger found God... yeah, right. I do think it's interesting that he's actually doing Sister Pete's program with Beecher. I didn't think he would.

I did not like that Ronnie Barlog guy! I did feel a little bad for him--Keller seems willing to play anyone and everyone who might come between him and Beecher. I guess Supreme Allah put it together that the two guys murdered had both slept with Beecher... hence picking out Keller as the killer was pretty easy. So did Supreme Allah get off for those killings, or did he just not get sent to death row? I wonder if he's going to live.

Love that Rebadow went to bat for Bushmalis. That's sweet. I wonder if Bushmalis is actually going to get to marry Norma.

I really like Glynn's new secretary--she seems very cool. How long is her upbeat attitude going to last at Oz?

I really miss Adebisi. That guy was way more colorful and interesting than the baddies in Oz right now.

Not sure what I make of the Reverend Jeremiah--I keep thinking, it's Dylan from 90210! But hey, the dude got through to Schillinger, so he's going to have something going for him!

Alvarez is barely back and already annoying me. Now he's smearing his feces on his face in solitary. Man, I hate that guy. Why can't someone successfully kill him??

I probably skipped over a lot--if I summed up all my thoughts on all five episodes, this post would be ridiculously huge. Back to work tomorrow, so I'll probably slow down a bit in watching.... Hopefully not too much though.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Pft, who needs to work when there's Oz to watch!!

 

[byron lomax]

The news program episode was interesting, but kind of silly, too. Why would the segment producer be interested in doing a story on Beecher and Keller's love affair? Then they went for Said killing Adebisi, and then had the reporter guy sleep in a cell with an inmate. It stretched credibility a bit, but it was fun.

I remember that being one of the few episodes that I truly disliked. Didn't work at all for me.