Another Voyager 1st-time watch thread

[JanewayRulz!]

Liked Haunting.

Loved Unimatrix Zero... BOTH parts.

What was really neat was the commercial for Unimatrix 1... and don't bother looking, I've never found the right one on youtube.

The commercial showed Janeway getting assimlated and her SCREAM on the promo was like 10X what it actually was in the show... which made it ever so creepy for those of us waiting for the ep to air.

Oh, my fav line from part 1?

Its a tie.

Engineering:

TORRES: Make that three. If you're going to pull this off you'll need an Engineer in there.
PARIS: B'Elanna.
TORRES: Tactical directive thirty six A.
PARIS: There is no directive thirty six A.
TORRES: There is now.

And on the bridge, with Harry in the center seat as the Captain and Chakotay are arguing in the corridor on the way back from Engineering.

[Bridge]
KIM: Someone's trying to tap into the main computer.
JANEWAY [OC]: Source?
KIM: It's some kind of transwarp signal. It's activating the comm. system. Captain... (and suddenly we see a green glow light up the bridge as Harry looks at the main viewscreen.)
[Corridor]
KIM [OC]: ...I think it's for you.

 

[HoneyBLilly]

Oh. I love the Borg Queen's obsession with Harry.


I almost forgot about that.

 

[startrekwatcher]

What was really neat was the commercial for Unimatrix 1... and don't bother looking, I've never found the right one on youtube.

Is this it? If it is I like it too. In fact, I find myself getting nostalgic for the 90s/2000 time period quite often and watch old music videos or trailers from back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlJDNv5JCJM

And while it is an ENT trailer I enjoy this one too--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMAJoutys78

 

[JanewayRulz!]

What was really neat was the commercial for Unimatrix 1... and don't bother looking, I've never found the right one on youtube.

Is this it? If it is I like it too. In fact, I find myself getting nostalgic for the 90s/2000 time period quite often and watch old music videos or trailers from back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlJDNv5JCJM

And while it is an ENT trailer I enjoy this one too--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMAJoutys78

Close, but no cigar.

I remember putting it on the speakers behind my chair, and being shaken out of the chair while the promo ran on the computer.

(IIRC I downloaded that promo from Jupiter Station, "back in the day".)

 

[JanewayRulz!]

Oh. I love the Borg Queen's obsession with Harry.


I almost forgot about that.

BQ: "See you later, Harry"
HK: "What did she mean by that?"

The Borg Queen... "The Uber Cougar!"

 

[HoneyBLilly]

Oh. I love the Borg Queen's obsession with Harry.


I almost forgot about that.

BQ: "See you later, Harry"
HK: "What did she mean by that?"

The Borg Queen... "The Uber Cougar!"

She does dress slightly provocative.

Did we ever find out what the Queen meant by that? I can't remember . . . .

 

[froot]

What was really neat was the commercial for Unimatrix 1... and don't bother looking, I've never found the right one on youtube.

Is this it? If it is I like it too. In fact, I find myself getting nostalgic for the 90s/2000 time period quite often and watch old music videos or trailers from back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlJDNv5JCJM

And while it is an ENT trailer I enjoy this one too--http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMAJoutys78

Close, but no cigar.

I remember putting it on the speakers behind my chair, and being shaken out of the chair while the promo ran on the computer.

(IIRC I downloaded that promo from Jupiter Station, "back in the day".)

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xaPXI3kEM0[/yt]

It used to be on Vidiot's site as well (seems that's where this YT user gets all his vids.) I remember this promo VERY WELL for the exact same reason, JR! It was both a wide shot and a scream not heard in the final episode, but I remember it got our attention on the ol' forums! We chatted about that bad boy for weeks before the episode aired

Zero stars for "Sacred Ground"? Ouchies. I'm fond of that one for the following reasons:

A) It's a rare pro-religion message.
B) It's a KJ episode, with bonus nudity
C) George's mom
D) Jedi robes

Also, in "Unimatrix Zero," I think the Queen was just messing with Harry because she knew she could.

EDIT: That's not the right promo, JR? That's the one I remember downloading, and the same one they showed during sweeps. I don't remember another one. The shot used at the end is not what was in the final cut of the episode.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

WOW that promo is GREAT!!!!

We should have a promo thread. I've seen exactly ONE sort of Trek series promo in my life because Trek was never on much here and I watched it all the first time by renting videos.

The Trek promo I did see was a voice over from the station ENT was on.. it showed the NX-01 flying forward and the voice over solemnly intoned "It's a BIG SHIP. Enterprise, tonight at 10." Totally cracked me up, obviously they couldn't think of anything else to say!

 

[Shatnertage]

"Sacred Ground" wasn't the one where Harry woke up in someone else's afterlife? It was the one where Janeway did the spiritual thing? Then I take back saying I agreed it was bad.

That being said, I have the unfortunate duty of slogging through...

"Unimatrix Zero, Part II"
I didn't like this one that much, either.

If the Borg Queen knows that she can't hear the drones' voices anymore, why doesn't she just have one of the thousands of drones still on the cube/sphere that she is in touch with kill them? Blowing up the whole cube makes no sense at all to me.

And I must've missed the line in the first part about the neural suppressant, because I couldn't figure out why they weren't fully assimilated. Was there some reason that Tuvok succumbed and the others didn't?

I got a chuckle out of the thought of Unimatrix Zero as an Internet chatroom. It's kind of like this place, isn't it, with people who are physically separated by vast distances? Funny.

I just didn't dig this one at all--I just kind of sat through it. Though the Doctor creeped me out by staring at Seven after she went to sleep. And with the little smirk on his face when he was needling her about Axum. I don't even want to go there (even though Guy Gardner did).

If I was Janeway I would have given the Borg Queen the finger as my image was disappearing. But if I was Janeway I'd have been giving her the finger every time her back was turned, anyway,. I didn't like the Borg Queen very much.

Is that big hole in the saucer fixed before the next episode starts?

And I forget--which one am I supposed to watch first--"Drive," or "Imperfection?" "Imperfection" is first on the DVD.

 

[HoneyBLilly]

The one where Harry wakes up and is supposed to be dead or whatever is Emanations.

Drive and then Imperfection.

They got aired out of order and if you notice small things it's annoying.



I like Part II because I have this thing with Vulcan's losing their logical reasoning.

Also I thought Borg Janeway was a bit kick ass. Just sayin'


I however hated the end between Janeway and Seven, that could have been better executed with Chakotay.

 

[Shatnertage]

Thanks!

 

[HoneyBLilly]

You're welcome

and J'Rulz was this the trailer?

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBXTgcV1jGc[/YT]

 

[froot]

If I was Janeway I would have given the Borg Queen the finger as my image was disappearing. But if I was Janeway I'd have been giving her the finger every time her back was turned, anyway,. I didn't like the Borg Queen very much.

Ahahahahah. I swear someone actually edited one of the frames to make this exact thing happen. I can't remember where I saw it. Probably tumblr.

That would have made the episode amazing.

I like this one just because I'm a Badass!Janeway fan and I liked how they outwitted the Queen in the end and all that. Also because the part where KJ's talking to Seven and Chakotay in Sickbay reminds me of Star Wars. Oh, and Kurok. Bless him.

 

[Shatnertage]

Kurok made me think of "I am KIROK!!!"

 

[Ashlynn Pierce]

And I must've missed the line in the first part about the neural suppressant, because I couldn't figure out why they weren't fully assimilated. Was there some reason that Tuvok succumbed and the others didn't?

Because Tuvok is a "weak" Vulcan. It's just for an obstacle in the story. And it made a pretty good one, I'm with my sister on liking the episodes where the Tuvok loses control Meld and Riddles come to mind foremost.

I just didn't dig this one at all--I just kind of sat through it. Though the Doctor creeped me out by staring at Seven after she went to sleep. And with the little smirk on his face when he was needling her about Axum. I don't even want to go there (even though Guy Gardner did).

Whenever the Doctor is in a room alone with Seven, I'm generally creeped out.

Love the Doctor, just don't see the potential in a relationship for those two.

If I was Janeway I would have given the Borg Queen the finger as my image was disappearing. But if I was Janeway I'd have been giving her the finger every time her back was turned, anyway,. I didn't like the Borg Queen very much.

I didn't like Susanna Thompson's Borg Queen very much. I love Alice Krige's much more, she's much more creepier.

Is that big hole in the saucer fixed before the next episode starts?

Of course it is.

 

[{ Emilia }]

I didn't like Susanna Thompson's Borg Queen very much. I love Alice Krige's much more, she's much more creepier.

Funny, I'm exactly the opposite. I thought Thompson made a great Borg Queen and her non-blinking stare freaks me out.

 

[startrekwatcher]

Unimatrix Zero had the potential to be developed into a nice little arc but the writers chickened out. I didn't like Janeway spending the hour as a human looking hologram rather than a drone. I didn't like the fact in Part I the Queen smiled and acted as if she felt the trio in the Collective then in Part II she only realizes they aren't there when she hears Tuvok's thoughts. I didn't like that we didn't once and for all explore who and what the Queen was--it seemed we were on the verge of it when she visited UZ but nada. I didn't like the way everything was wrapped up at the end and we never heard anything about this ever again when the show had a real chance to shake things up--I guess I was just spoiled by the Final Chapter on DS9 and wanted to see a fundamental change in the Borg even their downfall. And the hour spent way too much time on Seven and Axum-a romance that had no spark to it.

I'd give it 2.5 stars out of 4. Just a really wasted opportunity.

 

[Shatnertage]

On one hand we see them putting the Queen together, and it's obviously not the same one from First Contact, but on the other she talks about being assimilated--like she was just an ordinary drone. I don't get it.

 

[exodus]

I didn't like Susanna Thompson's Borg Queen very much. I love Alice Krige's much more, she's much more creepier.

I 100% agree.
She plays her like she's the Devil, sweaty and very perversely seductive in offering all your dreams come true while trying to steal your soul at the same time.

On one hand we see them putting the Queen together, and it's obviously not the same one from First Contact, but on the other she talks about being assimilated--like she was just an ordinary drone. I don't get it.

I believe Star Trek the Magazine said the original idea in "First Contact" was to assemble the Queen as you see it in "Unimatrix Zero". It's a way of further de-humanizing her by showing she's way more machine than person. Heartless. (ha-ha!)

Plus, I think the Queen is meant to be the same from "FC" too.
I think either Krieg wasn't available at the time or cost too much, so I think Thompson was their backup.
As Seven told us, ones conscience remains in the collective long after you've gone.
The Queen is the collective, so she's probably downloaded in all the Drones.


During "Dark Frontier", didn't you get the impression the Queen was grooming Seven to one day be a Queen?

 

[JanewayRulz!]

You're welcome

and J'Rulz was this the trailer?

Nope... this one doesn't even HAVE the scream... this "uh" is more like the sound one makes when getting goosed by an unenthusiatic partner.