GR was great at finding loopholes and ways around the rules. He was the first Trek Troll.
Another Pic Surfaces of Khan's Baby from TWOK
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GR was great at finding loopholes and ways around the rules. He was the first Trek Troll.
That was my point. I was trying to find any reference to the SEG rules of the time. Thanks.
Then I'm perplexed as to why you cited the book as below. Or am I missing something else you were pointing me to in said volume?
Therin of Andor said:
Holy cow. Thought I knew every angle. For a moment, the idea of Kirk raising Khan's surviving child flashed through my mind, but nah. Glad they cut that scene out. Oy! -- RR
When you said, "I really would like a source..." it seemed like you were saying there wasn't anything in print whatsoever re getting the fans in as extras, and I rattled off two books I knew mentioned the event in some detail. Sorry. I wasn't saying those two books actually backed up the theory you'd heard.
Have you read "To Reign in Hell"?
Thanks for clarifying...I'm still unable to find reference to the RecDeck at all in The Making of book...but that's most likely because it's just something I am missing when skimming through it.
Aha! It was Susan Sackett's "Starlog" column that covered the fan extras' casting call (in issue #20, p 22).
Also Bjo Trimble's "On the Good Ship Enterprise" (Donning, 1982) and Walter Koenig's "Chekov's Enterprise" (Pocket, 1980), both of which mention partial lists of the fans who made up the successful group of about 170 (of over 350 hopefuls).
A very early article by Dennis Fischer (later a regular "Cinefantastique" reviewer) was featured in "Enterprise Incidents" (#7, Nov 1979, pp 4-8) and called "Part of the magic: the experience of being a Star Trek extra". Dennis's article was written only days after the filming of the scene, and before any official publicity material about the TMP aliens had even been released. It has the best list of fan participants, with a lot of information on who's who, and where to find some of them in the scene.
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/2007/08/faces-in-crowd-ive-wanted-to-do-this.html
I guess if you want information on any ruling that was made after the fact, you could write to the current version of the Screen Extras Guild?
Whereas I don't actually give a shit. 
I want to say, DS9Saga, that the ref to the SEG coming down on Roddenberry was in either Joel Engel's biography or James Van Hise's biography of Roddenberry. (The unique thing about Van Hise's biography is that it covers, at laborious length, Roddenberry's near-pornographic Tarzan script. Engel and David Alexander stay the hell away from that.) But since I don't have access to either book right now, I can't check.
I want to say, DS9Saga, that the ref to the SEG coming down on Roddenberry was in either Joel Engel's biography or James Van Hise's biography of Roddenberry. (The unique thing about Van Hise's biography is that it covers, at laborious length, Roddenberry's near-pornographic Tarzan script. Engel and David Alexander stay the hell away from that.) But since I don't have access to either book right now, I can't check.
That is ONE CREEPY subplot I'm glad Nick Meyer had cut out. I realize 18 years on a planet with Marla McGivers would lead to a lot of intimacy and possible pregnancy, but such a thing would never have felt right in the context of the Khan story. Not one like TWOK.
Look again.
From the actual released film itself, you'd think Joachim was Khan's baby.
Yeah, having an "innocent" baby blown up on the Reliant by the Genesis explosion would just be wrong and too much of a distraction in the movie. It woulda derailed it, I think. Khan going down is one thing, but having a baby die is another.
From the actual released film itself, you'd think Joachim was Khan's baby.
Khan's baby would have had the decency to keep his eyes open as he died.
Joe, blooper
Why? Kahn lost his family in his race for vengeance, sacrificing everything in his quest to get Kirk. Where as Kirk found his family, friends, and the meaning to his life because of Kahn.
"It's the best of times, it's the worst of times." Kahn's own attempts to "kill kirk" give kirk his life back.
JOACHIM DIRT:"Yer's is...like...the superior intellect and all that gay shit!
Who's seen my copy of SUBSPACE AUTO TRADER, man?"