In retropect... all the clues we're there, weren't they?Santa T. Claus said: What is Sulu doing to that man?![]()

In retropect... all the clues we're there, weren't they?Santa T. Claus said: What is Sulu doing to that man?![]()
Santa T. Claus said:
It's becoming apparent that cylindrical orange pylons are going to play a large part in this movie.
Yep... definitely a hat. Definitely part of the uniform. Definitely never WORN on screen, but...Unwrapped said:For those interested, here is a pic of Pike's hat in "The Cage." It certainly looks as though it could have been intended to be part of the regular uniform.
Right. As I recall, Roddenberry decided to go ahead and make that largely universal for starship-assignments as of TMP. The REAL justification was to save money on costume redressing, of course. But the in-universe explanation was that the Enterprise was the only one of the original twelve uprated Constitutions sent out on the "five-year-mission" to expand the borders of known space to return essentially intact (others obviously survived, but were damaged in combat or suffered catastrophic issues making them unservicable... we saw several instances of that ourselves, with the Exeter, Lexington, etc) So to honor the Enterprise crew, they made the Enterprise symbol the official symbol of all Starship crews.ClayinCA said:
beneldon said:
In Kirk's era each ship had it's own emblem. Then, by ST:TNG, Kirk's Enterprise emblem was adapted by Star Fleet as it's symbol.
Actually, that had pretty much happened by the time of The Motion Picture.
Cary L. Brown said:
But the in-universe explanation was that the Enterprise was the only one of the original twelve uprated Constitutions sent out on the "five-year-mission" to expand the borders of known space to return essentially intact (others obviously survived, but were damaged in combat or suffered catastrophic issues making them unservicable...
(As a side note, I'm sure that went over like a lead balloon among the crews of other ships...)![]()
Well, I did think "Gomer Pyle" but I showed this to a friend and he said:Now, as a side note... I looked at that uniform, and know what I thought? My gut reaction was "that's a Starfleet Marine."
Looks about as stylish as those unisex fatigues that all the Chinese
had to wear during the glorious days of Chairman Mao.
Cary L. Brown said:
Yep... definitely a hat. Definitely part of the uniform. Definitely never WORN on screen, but...Unwrapped said:For those interested, here is a pic of Pike's hat in "The Cage." It certainly looks as though it could have been intended to be part of the regular uniform.
Now, as a side note... I looked at that uniform, and know what I thought? My gut reaction was "that's a Starfleet Marine."
What we're seeing here, so far, more than anything else is VARIETY added to the uniforms. What we've seen so far seems to likely include the following:
1) Vulcan civilian garb.
2) Pre-TOS Starfleet athletic garb (jogging suit).
3) Post-TNG Starfleet Uniforms.
4) Romulan uniforms different than what we're used to (ie, not silver quilted stuff).
5) TOS-era green crewmen jumpsuits.
6) Dark grey Starfleet military garb (with the Enterprise arrowhead).
7) Science fatigues (in all-white).
8 ) Some sort of variant which COULD be a pre-TOS uniform (but we've only seen the collars for those).
Oh, and "a combadge?"....
Anyone who sees the "Enterprise Arrowhead" on a uniform and thinks that wasn't present on the TOS uniforms clearly has NEVER watched a single episode of the original show.
It was TNG that changed the breast patch into a piece of functioning technology. Prior to that, it was a patch (TOS and prior, plus TMP), with it later on being a pin as well (some TMP uniforms and all post-TMP uniforms). But the insignia was ALWAYS THERE.
Go watch an episode of TOS, willya?![]()
Santa T. Claus said:
It's becoming apparent that cylindrical orange pylons are going to play a large part in this movie.
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