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another new season 2 trailer and poster

Decent Trailer, but I was hoping we might have gotten a mix of the first two trailers for this one. I liked the humor in the first trailer and then the second gave us more of the story. This trailer feels like most of the other trailers you see in TV these days, that non-stop action end of the world type thing. I know trailers are there to entice people to watch so I still have hope that they might bring in more quieter moments to develop the characters.
 
And I'm confused/annoyed by everyone seeming to know what Section 31 is. (Isn't it super duper ultra maxi level top secret?)
Maybe they became top secret, or driven underground after their rogue operations are discovered, similar to the NID in Stargate.
 
the lens flares make it look like the Enterprise is shooting the Discovery, lmao.

Is that Burnham at the start in the Blue Enterprise uniform?

Also Bald Klingons, so they're not just wiping them out in Season 2.

The wigs will be ready on Tuesday.
 
Decent Trailer, but I was hoping we might have gotten a mix of the first two trailers for this one. I liked the humor in the first trailer and then the second gave us more of the story. This trailer feels like most of the other trailers you see in TV these days, that non-stop action end of the world type thing. I know trailers are there to entice people to watch so I still have hope that they might bring in more quieter moments to develop the characters.

This is a good point. My recollection is the first trailer looked like a fun romp, the second looked like a heady drama. This appears to be trying to make us believe it's a big dumb action movie.

Hopefully the truth is somewhere between all three.
 
So, Pike is presumably the same guy as in The Cage since this is the Prime Universe, unaltered.

If so, he's fine with retiring from Starfleet to own and trade "animal women", since all he decided against was leaving the fleet. And now he's chatting with the Empress of a tyranical evil empire, joining an immoral, unethical branch of Starfleet to commit any crime she likes like any other crew member getting a promotion.

Guess only Kelvin Pike was a cool guy, this ones an asshole.
 
So, Pike is presumably the same guy as in The Cage since this is the Prime Universe, unaltered.

If so, he's fine with retiring from Starfleet to own and trade "animal women", since all he decided against was leaving the fleet. And now he's chatting with the Empress of a tyranical evil empire, joining an immoral, unethical branch of Starfleet to commit any crime she likes like any other crew member getting a promotion.

Guess only Kelvin Pike was a cool guy, this ones an asshole.

Hasn't Mount already said he's not going to play Pike as he was played in The Cage - in part because he recognizes how fucking sexist Cage Pike was, and it wouldn't fly in the modern era?
 
If so, he's fine with retiring from Starfleet to own and trade "animal women", since all he decided against was leaving the fleet.

I'm not sure he was ever "fine" with it. He looked appalled during the scene on Talos IV.
 
I'm not sure he was ever "fine" with it. He looked appalled during the scene on Talos IV.

Then why the hell was this his #1 fantasy job after leaving Starfleet?

The Talosians made it clear they could only make peoples desires come to life, not invent new things, the entire problem they faced.

I mean if there were even 5 other jobs in his mind that he wanted more we'd have had a montage but nope, right in there.
 
The Talosians made it clear they could only make peoples desires come to life, not invent new things, the entire problem they faced.

I don't think it would mean that they couldn't use one persons thoughts in another's experience. Pike didn't look like he knew what he was strangling when they escaped.

As far as the "trading green animal women" went. Pike said he could be a trader on Regulus or the Orion colonies. It was Boyce who brought up slave women.

I mean if there were even 5 other jobs in his mind that he wanted more we'd have had a montage but nope, right in there.

No. They gave us the one that would be the most out-of-the-ordinary.

I don't have an issue with Mount doing his own take on Pike, that's what actors do. But, at the same time, it lends more evidence to the idea that Discovery is its own distinct timeline/universe.
 
I don't think it would mean that they couldn't use one persons thoughts in another's experience. Pike didn't look like he knew what he was strangling when they escaped.

As far as the "trading green animal women" went. Pike said he could be a trader on Regulus or the Orion colonies. It was Boyce who brought up slave women.

Yes but, really?

A Starfleet captain imagining leaving and going right into organised crime, people trafficking (which comes with working for the Syndicate), arms dealing, basically the main enemies of the Federation in it's infancy if the Rise of the Federation novels are remotely canon.

Why was that even in there? trading with the scum of the galaxy in the main organised criminal enterprise of the 23rd century.

The guy was not squeaky clean, and maybe this season is going to show us how bad he really is.
 
The guy was not squeaky clean, and maybe this season is going to show us how bad he really is.

Taking someone's deep dark thoughts and showing them to the world doesn't mean someone is "bad". If that's the case, then I imagine we are all incredibly terrible people.
 
Taking someone's deep dark thoughts and showing them to the world doesn't mean someone is "bad". If that's the case, then I imagine we are all incredibly terrible people.

I'm pretty sure in 1964 it was meant as they showed it. I know we like to think better of those characters now.

But damn, not only knowing S31 exists but being happy for a genocidal tyrant getting a job offer from them like it's nothing is...not something most people would do.
 
I'm pretty sure in 1964 it was meant as they showed it. I know we like to think better of those characters now.

If that's the case, then we know Pike wasn't a terrible person, because he looked appalled at it all. We all have dark thoughts that should never see the light of day, it doesn't make us terrible people.
 
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