The most interesting part of the trailer was the nasty/itchy sight of bees using a walker as a hive.
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The most interesting part of the trailer was the nasty/itchy sight of bees using a walker as a hive.
They revealed a lot more during the panel than any of the trailers have so far.
The things that really caught my attention were the fact that Hope and Iris's father, who leaves and inspire the kids to go out to find him, is a biologist who was studying the zombie plague. So there's a chance we might get at least a bit more detail about what is going on with the plauge.
We're also supposed to take a deeper look at the Civil Republic Military, the group with the three rings as their symbol, thanks to Julia Ormond's character Elizabeth.
The things that really caught my attention were the fact that Hope and Iris's father, who leaves and inspire the kids to go out to find him, is a biologist who was studying the zombie plague. So there's a chance we might get at least a bit more detail about what is going on with the plauge.
We're also supposed to take a deeper look at the Civil Republic Military, the group with the three rings as their symbol, thanks to Julia Ormond's character Elizabeth.
You know the younger cast to me is really making me not have much interest in the show. While the idea of looking at their society is kind of interesting I really don't want a Arrowverse type of Walking Dead show. I would much rather follow the Julia Ormond character than the teens. Nothing wrong with kids on a Walking Dead show like Karl and Judith etc but to do a whole show about them really doesn't appeal to me.
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The plague has never been the point of the show.
It's been about people will do...or not do. A real mirror of our values as well as our beliefs.
The Pandemic has surely done so with our church...exposing who has true relationships and who is superficial
As true as all that is, since this show follows a society that has managed to maintain a standard of living similar to pre-apocalyptic society if not exactly the same as, it only makes sense they would be studying the zombie virus.
Of course. No society would just sit around and ignore a plague that threatens the living--even how people live with each other--if your companions are all a potential greater threat if they died for any reason.
The lack of interest in the plague on the characters part, and the shows' refusal to explore, have been one of my biggest issues with them. I could see not really taking the time to look to hard at it while they were constantly on the move, but once the characters started establishing stable societies, you'd think they would put at least some effort into finding a way to cure the plague, or at least get a better idea of what it is.
They would at least talk about it. People don't exactly ignore the Coronapocalypse. If there was still an Internet, there would even be funny cartoons about it. People would say things like, "Man, I'm as hungry as a Walker" or "You've got such bad taste, a Walker wouldn't eat you."
I would think the majority of people in the Walking dead universe would have long since had their fill of talking about it. Its literally ruled their every waking moment for years. Corona really doesn't compare.
I'd also say they've had more than their fill of general, unprovable speculation about the cause, so unless they were presented with a situation which made actual scientific answers a serious possibility (ie, here is someone that has the medical expertise to do the research, can we find/make them a working lab somewhere) they'd have long since stopped caring about that, too.
I wouldn't expect anything more than the ocassional joke or moment of reflection, some of which we've seen and plenty of which could've happened off-screen.
I'd also say they've had more than their fill of general, unprovable speculation about the cause, so unless they were presented with a situation which made actual scientific answers a serious possibility (ie, here is someone that has the medical expertise to do the research, can we find/make them a working lab somewhere) they'd have long since stopped caring about that, too.
I wouldn't expect anything more than the ocassional joke or moment of reflection, some of which we've seen and plenty of which could've happened off-screen.
If characters sat around and talked about the zombie virus every episode, people would complain. I know I'm already sick of talking about COVID. Imagine hearing about a fictional disease on three television shows for a decade.
Kirkman said that the episode at the end of the first season--when they met the researchers--that that was a mistake, and not the direction they wanted to go in. I wonder if it created an expectation among fans that we would get more explanation as the series progressed?
I believe someone would always want to find others or their own means of looking into the plague. The alternative is to sleep with one eye open for the rest of their lives, for fear that companions or any random sick individual could turn on them (we witnessed as much during the prison arc where most of the residents were wiped out in minutes) and since none of the various groups were particularly vigilant about not letting their guard down, or isolating the sick (until after the fact, as in the prison arc) they would always be subject to losing more of the living.
Kirkman was wrong, while the Darabont / Fierro script remains one of the best hours in the series' history because they (Darabont & Fierro) had the protagonists react as the audience would--seek information and a possible cure, instead of just running around, always with limited resources and under the threat of the dead--a group that only grows and seeks the living 24 hours a day. Kirkman had some silly aversion to characters even discussing the origins and possible solution to the plague, when leaving it out would have taken away a realistic aspect to the survivors' story, thus making it no different than any other humans-run-from-or-kill-zombie production.
Ironically, Kirkman's complaint flies in the face of the greatest of all zombie productions--the original Night of the Living Dead, which had a scene of officials trying to explain (or in one case, silence) explanations about the possible origin of the plague. No matter the cause (all theoretical, anyway), scenes of that kind link the fantasy horror to audiences expectations that there would be non-stop discussion or investigation into the plague's cause and how to deal with it.
No one ever said TWD needed to be a cure-based series in every episode, but to completely avoid it--the way Kirkman wanted to--seems like a writer incapable of being creative enough to have characters explore theories, for fear that he might be called out on said theories being pseudo-scientific. Well...cannibalistic corpses do not exist, yet audiences accept that, and since they do, they'd have no problem with characters exploring the plague's cause and cure. They certainly had no problem with TWD's season one finale ("TS-19") going that route.
I'd say the alternative is just creating a new normal, making zombie safe practices the social standard. Don't leave sick people alone. Always destroy the brain on death, etc. Once you reach the point where it's *only* new zombies you have to worry about (rather than the billions who died in the first wave), living with the zombies would be no worse than living with major predators or in potential disaster areas. All in all, that's going to be a hell of a lot easier for the average person to achieve, considering the vast majority of survivors have no significant knowledge or experience in medical research. Granted, someone, somewhere, will continue to wonder about it for a long time. But most people? Eventually you have to stop worrying about what you can't answer and just deal with what you have.
The lack of interest in a lot of things is MY biggest issue. These characters were surviving hand to mouth long after they should've gotten organized.
- Large-scale crop-growing instead of eating mostly canned goods.
- Organized scavenging and stockpiling of every single item of use — none of this "go retrieve ONE component for our solar array after it breaks down".
- Manufacturing bullets, for Pete's sake!
- Recording all the knowledge in Eugene's mulleted head (not to mention others), in case something happened.
I think we've only seen two scientists in the whole show. I guess the movies or Beyond will explore a potential cure, surely. Looks like these will be both be set in established communities with better technology.
I'm not saying they should sit around every episode, but the lack of interest in trying to figure it out feels unrealistic to me. I would think finding people with the skills to deal with the virus and put an end to the zompacalypse would be a top priority. It doesn't have to be the focus of the show, but I don't think it would hurt the show if they had it as kind of a background element, with them constantly on the lookout for people that could find a cure, and if they did then their work on it. That kind of thing can take years or decades with some things, so it wouldn't even need to be the end of the show if they did do something like that.
Yes. that lack of prioritizing in communities is not logical at all; it seems like a writer's ploy to force the characters to seek goods only for the purpose of coming into contact with another enemy. At least on Hershel's farm, that was an established location with people naturally knowing how to survive without much need to travel, but all other locations was that lack of prioritizing, possibly with the exception of the prison, since the opening episode of TWD's fourth season had the heroes growing crops, keeping livestock and storing water / using water pumps...but a rather glaring lack of medical supplies...
^ This.