Am I the only one who dislikes the Enterprise-E?
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Ent D = BBW
Ent E = physically fit, visually attractive lady
Both of them = light up toys
Ent E = physically fit, visually attractive lady
Both of them = light up toys
martok2112 said:
Hmm, I don't know. The 1701-D is like a 'real woman', love handles and all; Whereas the 1701-E is more like one of those near-anorexic, air-brushed models you see on the front cover of magazines. The Sovereign Class looks like she has been throttled to within half an inch by her plastic surgeon, and hasn't come out of it looking at all healthy.
Ah well..... different strokes.
The 1701-D is like a 'real woman', love handles and all; Whereas the 1701-E is more like one of those near-anorexic, air-brushed models you see on the front cover of magazines. The Sovereign Class looks like she has been throttled to within half an inch by her plastic surgeon, and hasn't come out of it looking at all healthy.
I would put it another way: the D is Margaret Dumont, the E is Michelle Rodriguez.
The 1701-D is like a 'real woman', love handles and all; Whereas the 1701-E is more like one of those near-anorexic, air-brushed models you see on the front cover of magazines. The Sovereign Class looks like she has been throttled to within half an inch by her plastic surgeon, and hasn't come out of it looking at all healthy.
I would put it another way: the D is Margaret Dumont, the E is Michelle Rodriguez.
I liked Michelle Rodriguez.
I've always loved the E.
The D was graceful and stately, which befit her role in the series as kind of encapsulating all that's good and great and noble about the Federation. She looked good ambling along on diplomatic missions, but while she wasn't lacking in presence and firepower, she wouldn't have looked so great swooping around in a firefight and in the generally more action-orientated environment the films demanded. I was sorry to see her go in Generations (and especially in the manner in which she met her demise), but the movies needed a new Enterprise.
The E looks purposeful and poised, and much more able to handle herself in a fight. She's more compact and manoeuvrable than the D, yet graceful in her own way and looks better from more angles than the D ever did. The elongated design gives her a sense of movement as well, she looks faster than the D. I still remember sitting in the cinema watching First Contact, and the reaction of my 13-year-old self as the new Enterprise flew into view for the first time, and that's honestly the same reaction I have now, more or less, whenever I see her. If I'm brutally critical, the nacelles are a touch too long and the lack of any sort of a neck separating the secondary hull and saucer (and the joining of the two sections) looks a bit off, but apart from that she's a damn fine looking ship.
That said, she's not a patch on Excelsior, which to my eye is the best looking ship in the whole of Trek and which I still maintain should have been the Enterprise-A.
Ugliest ship IMHO is a toss-up between NX-01 and Voyager.
The D was graceful and stately, which befit her role in the series as kind of encapsulating all that's good and great and noble about the Federation. She looked good ambling along on diplomatic missions, but while she wasn't lacking in presence and firepower, she wouldn't have looked so great swooping around in a firefight and in the generally more action-orientated environment the films demanded. I was sorry to see her go in Generations (and especially in the manner in which she met her demise), but the movies needed a new Enterprise.
The E looks purposeful and poised, and much more able to handle herself in a fight. She's more compact and manoeuvrable than the D, yet graceful in her own way and looks better from more angles than the D ever did. The elongated design gives her a sense of movement as well, she looks faster than the D. I still remember sitting in the cinema watching First Contact, and the reaction of my 13-year-old self as the new Enterprise flew into view for the first time, and that's honestly the same reaction I have now, more or less, whenever I see her. If I'm brutally critical, the nacelles are a touch too long and the lack of any sort of a neck separating the secondary hull and saucer (and the joining of the two sections) looks a bit off, but apart from that she's a damn fine looking ship.
That said, she's not a patch on Excelsior, which to my eye is the best looking ship in the whole of Trek and which I still maintain should have been the Enterprise-A.
Ugliest ship IMHO is a toss-up between NX-01 and Voyager.
I'm still not totally sold on the Excelsior. It strikes me as being the Enterprise with all the grace and dignity knocked out of the design (which was the whole point, of course -- in The Search For Spock, the narrative is supposed to be that the Excelsior is the big bad boogeyman, and that good ol' dependable Enterprise came through and beat her out in the end.) I certainly agree that it gained a certain cultural acceptance through osmosis, though: once they bumped Sulu up to be her skipper, and we'd seen the design umpteen times as various 'guest ships' on TNG over seven years, I kind of eventually got used to her. But in my heart, I never really fell in love with the Excelsior design...
After years growing up watching the Enterprise-D have its weekly adventures after school on BBC2 (anyone else from the UK share that experience?) I first saw the Enterprise-E in the official Star Trek Magazine and I did not like it one bit...
The I saw her for the first time sailing gracefully infront of that nebular with that amazing score and that was it she was amongst my favourite Enterprise's if not my favourite (nostalgia for the TOS and TMP ship usually pips it to the top).
There isn't much I didn't like about the ship and can't get enough of her on screen!
She is the one ships I really wish I had got the deck plans for when SD were producing them, I picked up the Defiant and Nova and planned to get a set for the Sovereign not long after but then they stopped producing them which is something I regret.
The I saw her for the first time sailing gracefully infront of that nebular with that amazing score and that was it she was amongst my favourite Enterprise's if not my favourite (nostalgia for the TOS and TMP ship usually pips it to the top).
There isn't much I didn't like about the ship and can't get enough of her on screen!
She is the one ships I really wish I had got the deck plans for when SD were producing them, I picked up the Defiant and Nova and planned to get a set for the Sovereign not long after but then they stopped producing them which is something I regret.
I remember that well! Wednesday nights, wasn't it?
Me too. My memory is saying it was Tuesday/Wednesday nights as well. I can remember it was something like an episode of The Simpsons followed by an episode of either Star Trek: The Next Generation or Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Now I'm thinking back to my Friday night lineup as a child. WCW Championship on Channel 5, followed by Robot Wars on BBC 2, followed by an evening playing Goldeneye or Pokemon Colosseum at my local youth club.
That was pretty much it; Simpsons, whichever Trek was on at the time and Robot Wars.
The days where test cricket over ran and any of those things were cancelled were dark days indeed... Probably explains where my hatred for sport (especially when it messes up the TV schedule) comes from haha!
I lked the Enterprise-E. While I was sad to see the destruction of the Enterprise-D, it was great to see the introduction of a new starship Enterprise.
For me, the Ent-D I always saw as a kind of ocean-liner crossed with a space exploration vessel. The Ent-E I see as a warship crossed with vessel of space exploration.
One has to bear in mind all of the adversaries that Starfleet has encountered at that point: The Borg, The Dominion Wars etc.
Its almost as if the designs of the Enterprise-D and Voyager had been merged together.
Beautiful ship.
For me, the Ent-D I always saw as a kind of ocean-liner crossed with a space exploration vessel. The Ent-E I see as a warship crossed with vessel of space exploration.
One has to bear in mind all of the adversaries that Starfleet has encountered at that point: The Borg, The Dominion Wars etc.
Its almost as if the designs of the Enterprise-D and Voyager had been merged together.
Beautiful ship.
I'm here in Ireland and we get all the UK channels over here. Thats exactly the way I remember originally watching TNG. yes it was on Wednesday nights on BBC 2 at around 6pm.
Yes it was Wednesday nights. Loved the weekly adventures with TNG. One of my friends had Sky tv so he was way ahead of me with the series. Also Sky used to show TNG re-runs most nights. I was so jealous!!!
Oh yes, you are the only one
Well, not according to this very thread. There's clearly more than just one of us on here who've found the Sovereign design questionable.
But hey, different strokes for different folks, and all that.
I do like the Enterprise-E with it's sleek lines and slightly darker interior.
I have however always preferred the design of the Enterprise-D. Also the D's bridge looked much better in Generations than it did in the TV show and this could have been kept or upgraded for FC.
My main issue with the Enterprise-E is that I just don't see it as a true replacement for the Galaxy class, more of a step down. Like Picard and crew were given an Excelsior class replacement which just happened to be near completion when the D was destroyed.
I have however always preferred the design of the Enterprise-D. Also the D's bridge looked much better in Generations than it did in the TV show and this could have been kept or upgraded for FC.
My main issue with the Enterprise-E is that I just don't see it as a true replacement for the Galaxy class, more of a step down. Like Picard and crew were given an Excelsior class replacement which just happened to be near completion when the D was destroyed.
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