Am I deluding myself?

[Robert Maxwell]

Well right here we completely and severly disagree. For me these characters ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE like batman/superman/bond/spiderman...there's only one Kirk period amen. When anyone mentions star trek...me and everybody i've ever known thinks of one thing: TOS...not next gen, not deep space etc..etc..etc...
So with star treks more recent series; they've tried to capture the original magic but it's never really lived up to it....don't get me wrong the newer star treks are not bad -- but they can't come close to TOS...I'm sure people will wanna rip me a new one over that comment so i better just lube up right now. LOL

No offense, that just sounds like the position of a hardcore TOS fan and not of the general Trek fan or even the mainstream public. Recasting and reboots have worked for other franchises, so I don't think that in particular will be a detriment to this movie.

I'm not sure a movie could be made that you would be happy with, if that is your stance. The original cast won't be reuniting. Hell, they can't, since two of them are dead.

 

[SalvorHardin]

 

[Mandra]

It had occured to me that it might be feasible to bring Kirk in at the end of the film. There would be *some* changes to the timeline, which could include Kirk NOT getting killed on the bridge. The problem with that is the appearance of the two actors. Nimoy looks older than Shatner now, whereas Spock should appear much younger than Kirk at this stage.

So no, I don't think it can be pulled off convincingly.

 

[DaveyNY]

Just one picture of Shatner in the background somewhere...

Like they did in the Prequel Comic.

And yes, I know that would Rape Somebody's Adulthood.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Shatner fans.

He's not in the movie.

Be thankful for it.

Fixed.

 

[RobertScorpio]

I'm hoping he will not and believe he will not appear.
Leonard Nimoy is enough.

Let the old guys rest and move on already.

Your little resting remark can also be applied to Nimoy as well. Perhaps in Kirk was in it and Spock not then I'd be saying the same thing back to you.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not a Nimoy fan-Shatner hater or something.
I would not care if Nimoy wasn't in it. If you had asked me back when we didn't know he was part of Trek XI I would have said the same about Nimoy that I told you about Shatner.

But since Nimoy is in it after all, what can I do. I accept it.
As I said one of the old guard is more than enough. (for me at least)

No more torch passings and fan valentines. On with the new guys.

I am an old fan from way back. I actually watched season 3 as a little kid...but I agree with you. This better be the last time anyone one from TOS has anything to do with Star Trek...their time came and went. Its time to let the new kids take over...now wheel me back to my bed and put on Mchale's Navy!!

Rob

 

[M'Sharak]

So I was reading some posts here the other day and one of them got me thinking -- which is never a good thing...

Precisely. Stop that thinking.


At once!

...

But wait! Would he really have to come back as Kirk???? I think not!! Can't he be young Kirks grandfather or uncle....maybe he could be a kindly teacher at the acedemy.... I mean come on...there was room to include him in some way !

They've tried to do that before, on more than one occasion, and have never been able to reach an agreement. Shatner's been on record as saying that he wasn't interested in a cameo appearance, and the crew making the movie had another story to tell than one featuring a major Shatner role. Sure, I suppose that there's a slim chance that they're pulling a fast one on us and that Shatner really is going to turn up somewhere, but the logistics of pulling something like that off without a leak would verge on impossible, making it look look to me at this late date to be extremely unlikely.

 

[Guartho]

This flick is keeping hugh secrets but I do not believe an appearance by the original Kirk Unit is one of them.

Aw geez. I Borg was a good episode, but I for one have had enough of Hugh. I'm glad you spoiled this for me though because now I won't be blind-sided by it in the theater.

 

[Aragorn]

Well part of the movie is set during a time where transporters aren't yet public transportation, so young Kirk gets on his computer and uses Priceline to find the best deal on flight tickets...

 

[urbandk]

Well part of the movie is set during a time where transporters aren't yet public transportation, so young Kirk gets on his computer and uses Priceline to find the best deal on flight tickets...

can't you just picture a "PRICELINE NEGOTIATOR" sequence in a shuttlecraft?

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

If Shatner unfortunately passes away without Abrams including him in this film or its sequels -- assuming Abrams is still involved in some way with the sequels -- would Abrams ever be forgiven by Shatner fans? (and when I say "unfortunately", I mean his passing being unfortunate, not necessarily his lack of inclusion in a film.)

...or are those the same people who already hate Abrams anyway for having the 'audacity' to make this film.

For the record, I appreciate Shatner's past contribution to Star Trek, but I see no "need" to include him in this or a future film; however, it wouldn't bother me if they did include him (while still making the story work)

 

[shapeshifter]

Firstly, I love the Shat.

That said, I blame Shatner for his bone-headed decision of allowing Kirk to die in the first place. If He now dies before he gets a chance at a fully legitimate part in the NuVerse well, imo, it's his own damn fault.

 

[RAMA]

Anyone else thinking/hoping/wishing <---- insert whatever adjective you like that this will happen?

Nope, I hope he stays out of any future Trek.

RAMA

 

[Supervisor 194]

Cakes,

I've been a Trek fan for decades and while I've certainly enjoyed other aspects of the franchise, Star Trek is Kirk and Spock as far as I'm concerned. I'd have loved to have seen Shatner as Kirk one last time, even if it had just been an after the credits sequence of Old Kirk and Old Spock re-connecting. Given that the premise of the movie is changes to the timeline, the events of Generations certainly can't be the reason not to have him.

That being said, it's highly doubtful that Shatner is going to be a surprise in the movie as the logistics of keeping it a secret this long would be almost impossible. I suppose there is a miniscule chance, but I wouldn't get my hopes up. It's a shame, too: seeing the original Kirk and Spock together one last time would have been a much better hand-off to the new actors than just seeing Nimoy's Spock.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

...or are those the same people who already hate Abrams anyway for having the 'audacity' to make this film.

There's not a lot of anger coming from Shatner fans at this point; I think that's long over and done with. The objections to the film are coming mainly from other quarters on other grounds.

Shatner may not be in the movie, but it wouldn't be surprising to see him involved in the opening promotion in some way; in fact, he seems to be angling for something of the kind.

 

[Supervisor 194]

Shatner may not be in the movie, but it wouldn't be surprising to see him involved in the opening promotion in some way; in fact, he seems to be angling for something of the kind.

I wouldn't be surprised either: I suspect something has been worked out already or Shatner probably wouldn't be as nice as he's been to Abrams or the film.

 

[Gary7]

Man! Don't scare us like that. Sheesh.


Yes, Cakes... you are deluding yourself. If he was, it would be anti-climactic anyway. There wouldn't be much for him to do. He certainly couldn't appear as "old Kirk"... unless they did some trashy "flash ahead" thing. But it wouldn't work with the story... they also need to leave room for a sequel.

No. No Shatner. And quite frankly, Nimoy is enough of a stretch. This is NOT the old Star Trek. This is an "alternate version". If it bodes well, there may be a sequel or two... but NEVER a TV series with this new crew. It will be an interesting experiment on the Star Trek landscape. That is all.

 

[Michael Chris]

I certainly hope you are deluding yourself! And no I don't want Nimoy really either.

 

[FabiusMaximus]

I really think they tried to fit him into the movie -- possibly as part of a scene involving a mindmeld with older Spock and new Kirk(Orci said some kind of scene was written). But I think Shatner said no -- wanted bigger part etc etc. And I think that is a shame. It would have been great to see Shat and Nimoy together once more. And I also disagree with many of you about Nimoy. His participation is what excites me the most about this film. His presence and participation with the new crew will lend scope to this film -- more than what could have been achieved by a reboot. Having said that, I can't wait for this film -- I think it will be fantastic!

 

[seigezunt]

So I was reading some posts here the other day and one of them got me thinking -- which is never a good thing........BUT...I mean there is NO WAY that Shatner would appear in this movie as the ultimate surprise and that somehow, someway they've kept it under wraps...?

Anyone else thinking/hoping/wishing <---- insert whatever adjective you like that this will happen?

I love the Shat, but it's just not happening.

I can't imagine any filmmaker saving that as the surprise, if they are trying to sell the film to new people. Word would get out quickly, and kill returns.