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ALtered or Parallel Timeline????

Altered Or Seprate Divergent Universe


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Dar70

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Ok now that we have seen the new film what are peoples thoughts on this. I personally think its an altered timeline and not a seperate divergent parallel one. To me its the same as the TNG episode "Yesterdays Enterprise". Where everything is altered by the appearance of the Enterprsie C. The other shows now are pre Altered universe and do not happen the way we have seen them. Unless everything is righted again. Which i highly doubt.
 
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Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

Uhura clearly said "alternate". Not "altered".


So Spock and Nero went to a different timeline and universe just as the Uss Defiant went to the Mirror universe???? Im not buying it. Especially since Spock deduced that events in their lives unfolded differently. Why say this if its a completely different timeline.
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

Uhura clearly said "alternate". Not "altered".


So Spock and Nero went to a different timeline and universe just as the Uss Defiant went to the Mirror universe???? Im not buying it. Especially since Spock deduced that events in their lives unfolded differently. Why say this if its a completely different timeline.

Alternate timeline.
Mirror universe.
They are the same thing.
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

Uhura clearly said "alternate". Not "altered".


So Spock and Nero went to a different timeline and universe just as the Uss Defiant went to the Mirror universe???? Im not buying it. Especially since Spock deduced that events in their lives unfolded differently. Why say this if its a completely different timeline.

Alternate timeline.
Mirror universe.
They are the same thing.

Yeah I know. But I dont think Spock and Nero did the same thing the Defiant did. I think they went into the past of the Prime universe and altered it. Just as the Enterprise C altered events by going back in time.
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

They are the same for all intents and purposes because this time, we won't be going back to the other timeline/universe as all previous episodes dealing with time travel have ultimately done via the reset button. So everything that will follow in upcoming movies or TV series will follow the events shown here.

Let's face it: the alternate universe thing was put out there to ease the minds of those among us who feel as if their DVD collection of all the previous ST incarnations had been stolen off their shelves if Vulcan is destroyed and therefore Tuvok cannot ever be born (Which is in and of itself bullshit, but also another matter that I'm not willing to go into.) I'm still saying: It's Star Trek's future which just happens to be set in Star Trek's past. Watch Lost, for God's sake, then you'll understand! :lol:
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

You know thinking about my thread title, maybe I should have said parallel Universe instead of Alternate. Alternate is in flux and Altered is changed. They mean almost the same thing. How do I change the thread title????
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

So Spock and Nero went to a different timeline and universe just as the Uss Defiant went to the Mirror universe???? Im not buying it. Especially since Spock deduced that events in their lives unfolded differently. Why say this if its a completely different timeline.

Theoretically, since Spock Prime was still around and his memories weren't erased or altered by the trip, HIS 'future' was still intact. If there were only one universe and Nero had altered it so dramatically, odds are Spock Prime would never have failed to save Romulus and been tossed back to begin with. He might never have GONE to Romulus.

And Spock Prime wanting to 'direct' the path of the reality he landed in wasn't surprising at all. He was getting old. He was sentimental. Seeing young Kirk reminded him of his long lost old friend, and as he later stated, he didn't want to deprive himself of the deep friendship he knew he could have with Kirk...or just as easily not have, if not pushed toward it. Very...human.
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

So Spock and Nero went to a different timeline and universe just as the Uss Defiant went to the Mirror universe???? Im not buying it. Especially since Spock deduced that events in their lives unfolded differently. Why say this if its a completely different timeline.

Theoretically, since Spock Prime was still around and his memories weren't erased or altered by the trip, HIS 'future' was still intact. If there were only one universe and Nero had altered it so dramatically, odds are Spock Prime would never have failed to save Romulus and been tossed back to begin with. He might never have GONE to Romulus.

And Spock Prime wanting to 'direct' the path of the reality he landed in wasn't surprising at all. He was getting old. He was sentimental. Seeing young Kirk reminded him of his long lost old friend, and as he later stated, he didn't want to deprive himself of the deep friendship he knew he could have with Kirk...or just as easily not have, if not pushed toward it. Very...human.


I think Old Spock is an anomally now. He was caught in a time Bubble and remains unchanged.(Like in First Contact) I still think this is the main universe.
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

I say both. It was an alternate universe that would have been probably fairly similar to the primary Trek universe and it's history and timeline was altered by Nero's incursion into the events of the movie that we've seen.
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

Trek has always been fast and lose when it concerns Parallel, Alternate and Altered timelines. Im starting to think theres no definite answer.
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

Semantics. Altered time line and alternate time line mean the same thing to me.
 
Re: ALtered or Alternate Timeline????

I'm going with what was stated in the movie, alternate.
 
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