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Spoilers Alien races who got expanded on recently

I think the Voth, Vaaduwar and other alien races need to come into play.

The Voth would take us to a Dyson Sphere that would be immense and create a lot of new situations for Starfleet.
 
I'd like to see some of the first members of the Federation expanded upon. Enterprise did a bit with the Andorians and Tellarites, but I'd like to get some kind of canon with the first handful beyond that. Who joined up straight away? Alpha Centauri is considered to be the fifth member, are they a race or a human colony? Who was sixth; Denobulans? Deltans? Rigellians? Did a bunch of them join at the same time, or was it a slow start? Did anyone want to join but was turned down because another member vetoed their membership? Did the requirements for Federation membership change in any way in the first few decades after learning a few harsh lessons? Did anyone join and leave, threatening the whole thing so early on? What did other non-aligned worlds think of this new alliance building up on their doorstep, were 'classic' Federation members we know and love a bit anti-Federation when it started? So many questions.

We see all the Federation members of the time in 2286, with the Federation council. There are no Denobulans or Rigellians present. However we do see Aammazarans, Arcadians, Ariolo, Bzzit Khaht, Caitians, Deltans, Kasheeta, Xelonites, and the unnamed purple skinned aliens. If Denobulans or Rigellians joined the federation they would have to share a planet with one of these species like the Andorians and Aenar.
 
I had campaigned for a Saurian for almost 2 decades and it finally happened. :)

I'd like to see a Gorn on any incarnation of Trek.

RAMA

I saw this article about the Orions being expanded upon through Tendi in Lower Decks and the Emerald Chain in Discovery:

https://slate.com/culture/2021/01/star-trek-discovery-lower-decks-orions-sex-slaves-pirates.html

It does seem like a lot of Star Trek alien races were expanded upon recently, Lower Decks made the Pakleds into a threat and Picard explored Romulan society and religion.

What do you think of these expansion on somewhat underdeveloped alien races in Star Trek and what other alien races would you like to see expanded upon?
 
We see all the Federation members of the time in 2286, with the Federation council. There are no Denobulans or Rigellians present. However we do see Aammazarans, Arcadians, Ariolo, Bzzit Khaht, Caitians, Deltans, Kasheeta, Xelonites, and the unnamed purple skinned aliens. If Denobulans or Rigellians joined the federation they would have to share a planet with one of these species like the Andorians and Aenar.
That was Bring Your Sibling to Work Day so we only got to see half the Council. Just not enough chairs. The Excelsior was the only ship in the quadrant and couldn’t get there in time with more chairs.

The other half were watching from the cafeteria. Or were supposed to but there was also the Parisses Squares Super Bowl that day (the Denobulan Starclimbers vs. the Rigel Hoverbirds), soooo...
 
That was Bring Your Sibling to Work Day so we only got to see half the Council. Just not enough chairs. The Excelsior was the only ship in the quadrant and couldn’t get there in time with more chairs.

The other half were watching from the cafeteria. Or were supposed to but there was also the Parisses Squares Super Bowl that day (the Denobulan Starclimbers vs. the Rigel Hoverbirds), soooo...
Are you sure about that? Ariolo are apparently cenaturs according to lower decks, so they wouldnt need chairs. And then there's the how would they wear a starfleet uniform dilemma
 
I'm really curious about the Miradorn (the "twinned" race from DS9's "Vortex").

Has the novelverse done anything significant with them?
 
Are you sure about that? Ariolo are apparently cenaturs according to lower decks, so they wouldnt need chairs. And then there's the how would they wear a starfleet uniform dilemma
My Gods, you’re right! There must be more to this chair conspiracy. I smell a Cartwright in this!
 
IKR? And the worst part is those Orions from Season 1 looked *great*, but the ones in Season 3...what the hell was wrong with Tolor's face? The actor playing him does not look like that. To me it looks like they put a latex mask on him rather than painting (or colour correcting) him green.

Correct. Both Tolor and his Aunt Osyraa were each given a thin, green latex face that widened the chin in an alien way. There have been several shades of Orion green over the decades. Remember that male Orion pirates in Filmation's TAS actually had pale blue skin and wide chins.


Orions in "The Pirates of Orion", TAS
by Ian McLean, on Flickr

The ones in "Enterprise" were played by wrestlers and had piercings.


Big Show as an Orion male on "Borderland"
by Ian McLean, on Flickr


Orion, "Borderland"
by Ian McLean, on Flickr
 
I didn't like the Season 1 (and Short Trek) Orions because they appeared to be simply color corrected in post-production, and were probably just normal looking people on set. This may have had something to do with green screen (and, their specific tone of green was off).

I didn't like the Season 3 Orions because they went into the opposite direction, re-adapting the classic green but adding a layer of softening latex to give them an otherworldly look that added several hours to the makeup process for very little gain.

Enterprise Orions were probably the best makeup wise, and is in sync with what was continued with the Kelvin movies and originated with the TOS episodes. Orions are just green people, no need to go further or somehow less than that.
 
Correct. Both Tolor and his Aunt Osyraa were each given a thin, green latex face that widened the chin in an alien way.
I knew it! I speculated it was either that or badCGI, anyway, I thought it looked *terrible*. It just made them (and the Klingons and the Andorians) look very puffy in a bad way.And dopey, like cartoon villains.
Enterprise Orions were probably the best makeup wise, and is in sync with what was continued with the Kelvin movies and originated with the TOS episodes. Orions are just green people, no need to go further or somehow less than that.

I agree that the Enterprise Orions looked the best, same with the Andorians tbh. Though I did like the idea Season On of Discovery had that there's Orion males who specialize in pleasure and pheromones as well. It's only fair after all, if heterosexuals get their green-skinned space babes, we get green-skinned space hunks :lol:
 
I didn’t like the ENT Orions. The males I couldn’t take seriously, and the females looked like extras from Wicked.

Plus the whole the-women-were-in-charge-the-whole-time just seemed, well, misogynistic. Really? The slaves who were traded, raped, probably beaten and sometimes murdered...they were the ones in charge, huh? This from the same series that gave us de-con chamber gel massages, Vulcan catsuits, nipples, and bare asses, and a strange matriarchal (if not all female) race of evil sphere builders from another dimension here to happily kill us all.
 
I didn’t like the ENT Orions. The males I couldn’t take seriously, and the females looked like extras from Wicked.

Plus the whole the-women-were-in-charge-the-whole-time just seemed, well, misogynistic. Really? The slaves who were traded, raped, probably beaten and sometimes murdered...they were the ones in charge, huh? This from the same series that gave us de-con chamber gel massages, Vulcan catsuits, nipples, and bare asses, and a strange matriarchal (if not all female) race of evil sphere builders from another dimension here to happily kill us all.

Oh their lore from Enterprise was awful, and was one of those things that just seems to try way to hard to be clever (oh you thought the Orion women were slaves? No! They are in charge!":rolleyes:
But the female Orions looked good, imho, and If they made the male Orions look more like them (like the Orion males in season 1) then it would have been a very good look for them.

I think it could have worked if they had established that there's just two subspecies of Orion (both male and female) one that is lithe and has pheromones and one that is bulky and doesn't (and who's immune to the pheromones).

As for extras form Wicked...I dunno if anybody looked like the Wicked Witch of the West it was
Osyraa
 
Oh their lore from Enterprise was awful, and was one of those things that just seems to try way to hard to be clever (oh you thought the Orion women were slaves? No! They are in charge!":rolleyes:
But the female Orions looked good, imho, and If they made the male Orions look more like them (like the Orion males in season 1) then it would have been a very good look for them.

I think it could have worked if they had established that there's just two subspecies of Orion (both male and female) one that is lithe and has pheromones and one that is bulky and doesn't (and who's immune to the pheromones).

As for extras form Wicked...I dunno if anybody looked like the Wicked Witch of the West it was
Osyraa
I meant that the coloring was this bubblegum green they used in the musical. They looked fake, not biological. I didn’t have that big a problem with the Season 1 Orions. I was amazed to see them, so they were a treat. The green needed to be a little deeper, but it was not too bad for a first try.
 
It would be nice to catch up on the Xindi. We know by the time of the current Discovery in at least another timeline that the Xindi were federation members.
 
My top three have been the Conspiracy Aliens, Kelvans, and Voth. It’s high time to see some more Tholians, too. The tech limitations aren’t what they used to be
 
I don’t see any Federation race being hated on because of the Dominion for any longer than it took for people to feel safe again.

I’d like to see what became of the Xindi though.
 
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