Alien, Predator, AvP (news)

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

I don’t see how Alien works as a big franchise like Star Wars. How many times can you do oh shit, monsters, oh shit, we’re dead? There is a universe there beyond the xenomorphs, and the tie-ins have expanded on it a bit, but I can’t imagine anyone doing a corporate warfare story or a colony adventure or whatever that doesn’t involve the usual splatter. Alien or Aliens is in most of the titles. That does raise the question of whether the franchise could work if it created other kinds of aliens. There’s a lot of planets out there. But is there support for that anywhere?

I'm for it. Many of Titan Books' novels have interesting twists, including COLD FORGE which has a particularly unscrupulous antagonist even by Ripleyverse standards. Bishop was resurrected in another novel with the same name. Obviously Lance Henriksen, while excellent, lacks box-office-draw power.

But as for your second sentence, isn't JURASSIC PARK equally guilty of the same syndrome? Even STAR WARS has gone to the ''bad feelings'' and ''fun begins'' wells more times than I can remember.

My layout for the perfect ALIEN concluding movie would be a three-hour wrap-up beginning with a 100 percent broad-daylight attack on Earth, followed by the annihilation of the aliens' original planet. Ridley Scott's last two installments might have sabotaged this concept somewhat.

 

[Mage]

Can't believe nobody posted this yet!! I'm excited!

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[oktay]

I don’t see how Alien works as a big franchise like Star Wars. How many times can you do oh shit, monsters, oh shit, we’re dead? There is a universe there beyond the xenomorphs, and the tie-ins have expanded on it a bit, but I can’t imagine anyone doing a corporate warfare story or a colony adventure or whatever that doesn’t involve the usual splatter. Alien or Aliens is in most of the titles. That does raise the question of whether the franchise could work if it created other kinds of aliens. There’s a lot of planets out there. But is there support for that anywhere?

When Ridley Scott says he thought Alien was going to be 'as big as Star Wars' he's talking about popularity. But after watching movies 3 and 4 he realized it was never going to be that big. And he says the first two movies were good but movies 3 and 4 were bad.

 

[JD]

I don’t see how Alien works as a big franchise like Star Wars. How many times can you do oh shit, monsters, oh shit, we’re dead? There is a universe there beyond the xenomorphs, and the tie-ins have expanded on it a bit, but I can’t imagine anyone doing a corporate warfare story or a colony adventure or whatever that doesn’t involve the usual splatter. Alien or Aliens is in most of the titles. That does raise the question of whether the franchise could work if it created other kinds of aliens. There’s a lot of planets out there. But is there support for that anywhere?

Can't believe nobody posted this yet!! I'm excited!

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This looks great, and the trailer does seem to confirm we'll be getting new aliens along with the Xenomorph.

 

[Caretaker]

This thread reminds me that the animated fi;m Predator: Killer of Killers is out today (on Hulu or Disney +, depending on your location).

 

[valkyrie013]

The animation style on predator... is .. Not Good.. tis crap

 

[Beagleman]

Stunningly beautiful is what I would call it. The stories might be a bit repetitive, but still lots of fun. It felt a bit like a What if... anthology but actually with a point and some purpose. Wasn't really expecting too much yet I'm quite impressed. Oh and the best part, the final 5 seconds...

 

[Tosk]

I liked it quite a bit. Except for

Spoiler

it feeling a little bit like a Part One.

That last shot

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makes me wonder how much linking each Trachtenberg Predator movie will have going forward. Will we get Prey 2? Will it pick up after this or the first movie?

When the last shot was panning across the cryo-bay, I fully expected it to stop of a shot of Dutch.

 

[Starkers]

Honestly, based on the quality of Romulus, versus the quality of Prometheus and Covenant, I'm perfectly find with him just sticking to producing. I liked Prometheus and Covenant, but Romulus was a lot better than either of them. I'm also pretty optimistic about Earth based on what's been revealed so far.

Completely agree. I wish Romulus hadn't had quite so many call backs but it's a minor quibble. I almost walked out of the cinema during Covenant, it was that annoying!

 

[FPAlpha]

I liked it quite a bit. Except for

Spoiler

it feeling a little bit like a Part One.

That last shot

Spoiler

makes me wonder how much linking each Trachtenberg Predator movie will have going forward. Will we get Prey 2? Will it pick up after this or the first movie?

When the last shot was panning across the cryo-bay, I fully expected it to stop of a shot of Dutch.

Spoiler: Animated movie

The pod before they reveal the woman from Prey is supposed to be Dutch. I missed it but read about it on IMDB


I think this movie serves as a sort of bridge movie for Prey 2 and maybe others, donÄt know if i actually read him saying that or if it was just a speculative article.

I liked Killer of Killers a lot, the art style and the anthology style series they were going for.

Personally i liked the Samurai/Ninja story the best because of the good blend of personal story and actual lack of dialogue as the story is purely told through visuals. The pilot/mechanic story was the weakest to be honest but ok.

One thing i always wondered is the plethora of Predator weapons and how they seem to evolve over the centuries but some may seem to overly complicated in their application.

There's direct damage dealers like the Plasmacaster, the Spears and Wristblades and then there's the more capture style gadgets like the net ( that's also deadly under certain circumstances). Now they have a sort of guided harpoon thing, that just seems like so much hassle, i think they went a little too overboard in trying to come up with unique weapons.

 

[Tosk]

Spoiler: Animated movie

The pod before they reveal the woman from Prey is supposed to be Dutch. I missed it but read about it on IMDB

I just went to have a look and there's no mention in the trivia now. I also looked at the scene again and while I can't argue authorial intent,

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it's hard to see that figure as Dutch. It looks like any ol' generic dude obscured by a misty screen. That said, they've obviously given themselves an avenue to return to any non-dead previous characters now. Who knows why they store them for so long though.

I'd quite welcome an AvP movie done this way. Moreso than a new live action one.[/spoiler]

 

[Booji]

Killer of Killers was fucking awesome. Amazing animation and really cool stories that actually build upon the Predator mythos. The last scene was a really cool "oh shit!" moment.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Starting Killers now. The animation reminds me of a mix of Arcane and Tron: Uprising, both of which I loved and am totally cool with the stylized look. If this is an official addition to the lore of the Predator franchise, then I believe this is the first canonical naming of the Yautja. Great story so far.

 

[Steve Roby]

I'm for it. Many of Titan Books' novels have interesting twists, including COLD FORGE which has a particularly unscrupulous antagonist even by Ripleyverse standards. Bishop was resurrected in another novel with the same name. Obviously Lance Henriksen, while excellent, lacks box-office-draw power.

I've been reading the Titan books, and while they've been doing some of the most interesting things in the franchise, there are still a few repetitive runarounds.

But as for your second sentence, isn't JURASSIC PARK equally guilty of the same syndrome?

Quite possibly, but I haven't seen any of it.

Even STAR WARS has gone to the ''bad feelings'' and ''fun begins'' wells more times than I can remember.

Not only that, while the tie-ins keep trying to widen the canvas with the Old Republic, High Republic, New Jedi Order, etc, the filmed stuff has a tendency to look for five-minute gaps between the movies that can be filled in. As much as I like Andor and Rogue One, they just cover a bit of the time between the end of the prequel trilogy and the beginning of the original trilogy. They don't expand the universe. The latest trilogy, for something that should be looking forward, gave us another desert planet kid becoming a Jedi, another bad guy dressed in black, a bigger glorified Death Star, etc.

 

[Daedalus]

Yeah Killer of Killers was sweet as fuck. I really hoping theyre setting something up with it.

 

[JD]

So it sounds like there are actually stories in this then? I was afraid with this being a relatively short anthology movie that it was going to end up being nothing but a bunch of pointless super graphic overly gory deaths with no real stories around them.

 

[StarTrek1701]

King Predator 2 was very well designed.

EDIT:
Just realized something - If Yautja lose they either try to blow you up, and if they fail at that, their compatriots kidnap you.
Sore losers.

 

[USS Firefly]

I just saw Killer of killers, It was fun.
So the bigger the Predator the number they are?
I am not a fan of the huge Predators.

Just realized something - If Yautja lose they either try to blow you up, and if they fail at that, their compatriots kidnap you.
Sore losers.

Yeah not very sportsman like

 

[137th Gebirg]

It may actually be their version of the Prime Directive...