Alias

[Gingerbread Demon]

I've watched through the series twice. It's fun.

I'm wondering if the red ball and stuff from here is how JJ got that into Star Trek in the 2009 movie all I could think of was Alias when they showed us the big red ball.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I'm toward the end of season 1 now. And I'm noticing the obvious similarity between a certain scene toward the end of season 1 and a certain scene toward the end of Lost season 3.

I saw Lost before Alias, but it makes me think if I would have scene Alias first that scene would have been less powerful. I mean, come on, don't exactly copy the aesthetics of vaguely similar scenes in previous shows you wrote!

Do spoiler tags still work? Just tried and it didn't hide it. I want to talk about a certain scene involving Vaughn and a certain scene involving Charlie.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I think it's [ spoiler ] text here [ /spoiler ]

Without the gaps

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Spoiler: Lost and Alias

Somebody on the crew of both Lost and Alias really, really likes scenes where one room is filled with water, and a character is drowning while another character can see through a small porthole.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Spoiler: Lost and Alias

Somebody on the crew of both Lost and Alias really, really likes scenes where one room is filled with water, and a character is drowning while another character can see through a small porthole.

Yeah it's a common trope

 

[Forbin]

^Did the same writer write San Andreas? That scene is in that film too.

 

[cultcross]

What's up with this 'Prophecy' stuff all the sudden? It's like if I were watching The Office and suddenly Dwight discovered an ancient manuscript that says he is destined to user in a whole new era of paper sales.

...Actually, bad example, Jim would totally do that prank.

It's not a genre show without a prophecy and/or a chosen one
Must be ones of the most overused tropes in the book the last decade or two.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Yeah, but wrong genre!

 

[Gary Mitchell]

It's not the wrong genre for Alias. It's a big part of what Alias is.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

It's a 'Surprise! What looked like a real world spy drama is really fantasy!'

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Still enjoying Alias at about the one and a half season mark you guys say it goes downhill. Though from near the end of the first season you get the distinct impression it's not moving toward anything.

Don't know where they're going with Sidney's mother. At the beginning it seemed obvious they were playing a long game to gain their trust then betray but at this point they'd have to have a really good justification for that after she's had opportunities to betray them. Also it's interesting how, other than his wife, Sloane seems eager to immediately murder anyone not named Bristo but makes excuses not to believe evidence against the two.

It's also starting to stretch the imagination that all bad guys in the world try to capture Sidney alive when they have the drop on her.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Just finished the episode where they raid the Alliance facilities. Is this where I should stop watching and say 'The End'?

That episode certainly explains why Sloane was apparently Bristow-blind. Sark probably told him about Sidney and then he used her to destroy the Alliance.

 

[Mr Light]

Is that the Super Bowl episode titled "Phase One"? That is the high point of the series. The rest of Season 2 is not as good but still pretty good. Season 3 is where it takes a nose dive. You could stop at the end of S2 and not miss much.

 

[Beagleman]

I still enjoyed season 3 greatly, I think it's on par with season one (yes, two is my favourite) after that, well...

 

[Mr Light]

It's been 15 years, (god is it that long?!), but I remember really not liking S3.

Spoiler: slight spoilers for entire series

The whole two years later amnesiac thing, Vaughn being married, etc, etc. S4 was better for Nadia, and I recall the ending arc of that season to be the only time in the last three seasons I was into the show again. I don't even remember S5 except that it was Alias: The Next Generation.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Not sure I like this doppleganger thing or the instant dispatching of Francine. It's just more magicky and less interesting than the ideas that drove the series up to this point. And I hope they explain how Sloane suddenly 'Knew everything the whole time' because his behavior doesn't quite track and it feels a lot like a retcon.

 

[Mr Light]

As I distantly recall, in an early S2 episode when Sark meets Sloane, he hands him a letter and we see Sloane's shocked expression. That was the moment.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Except, he fake murdered his wife before that. Could he have done that without a long game already in place?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Wow, when Lost was on it was accused of having the writers make it up as they go along. But compared to Alias, it was downright logically consistent.

The Mom is a bad guy! No she's not! Yes she is! No she's not! Yes she is! Okay, she's definitely a bad guy. Only it's not the slightest bit consistent with her previous actions and it would require communication with Sloane at times she couldn't possibly have had any. *Facepalm* if Sloane was in contact with her the whole time how did he take so long to figure out Sidney was with the CIA?

They are definitely just coming up with the most dramatically shocking thing they can think of week to week with no destination and with no attention to consistency.

Lost was teasing resolution and then denying it for six years, but it wasn't jerking the audience around for its own sake.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Alias was fun despite all the flaws..

Lena Olin was a hot lady too.