What happened to that guy?
Yep. His IMDB page lists nothing upcoming.
He’s popped up on trekmovie a couple times recently to wish Kurtzman good luck. Maybe he (Kurtzman) will see it there and then he (Orci) will get a job on new Star Trek?
What happened to that guy?
Yep. His IMDB page lists nothing upcoming.
ST 2009 kind of took the place of an Academy series for me, and that was enough. I cant help but think it would just be a soap opera.Never been interested in a Starfleet Academy series, which they're been trying for forever, it seems. Plus I've seen enough of Khan.
I cant help but think it would just be a soap opera.
Not if it sucks.
But that was "Young Kirk and Spock idea", this might presumbly be show with completely new cadet characters. They pitched something like that after Voyager. There were supposed to be changing captains, Vulcan woman who finds emotion and love and Changeling masquarading as Klingon.Never been interested in a Starfleet Academy series, which they're been trying for forever, it seems. Plus I've seen enough of Khan.
Yes and it would be glorious.ST 2009 kind of took the place of an Academy series for me, and that was enough. I cant help but think it would just be a soap opera.
What happened to that guy? He went from maybe directing what became Star Trek Beyond to.... vanishing. Even his Twitter is gone. Did he and Kurtzman/Abrams/etc fall out?
Wasn't he the 9/11 truther?
Yep. His IMDB page lists nothing upcoming.
While we're talking anecdotes; quite a few fellow students who never ever knew watched any Star Trek show or movie watched Discovery and seemed to like it. Then again this all happened in Germany where we have the advantage of watching DSC on Netflix.
It's a great episode and would have been a fitting end, but it wasn't the end.The fitting end of TNG is called "All Good Things".
It's a great episode and would have been a fitting end, but it wasn't the end.
Which is really the struggle of the TNG films overall. They keep trying to capture some aspect of TWOK in order to make the film work, but it doesn't work and doesn't play off of the chemistry of the TNG crew.It's interesting as a counterpoint to the TNG movies, because it's basically feature length. As I said, Trek works better on the small screen, and a big part of this is because the Trek format works much better when there aren't "villains." All Good Things... had conflict and suspense, but no bad guy. All 3.75 of the TNG movies, in contrast, insisted on having bad guys. The latter three made it something of a personal conflict between Picard and the main baddy, turning him into a shallow action hero character.
Yikes, that's baffling. (Where do you live?) Granted it's really not clear exactly who the show was intended to be marketed to, but it's not as if it wasn't marketed at all.Allow me to report that none - not one - of my 150 high school juniors and seniors had any idea there was a new Trek show on. Not even the self-identified SF/fantasy nerds.
Nor the woman who works at Wal-Mart who helped start a chapter of Starfleet here a few years ago (!) and with whom I and others saw ST09 in costume. I asked her how she liked Discovery. I was greeted with a blank look.
Intransigent bees. I love it, that's perfect! And they've come across space seeking revenge for the bee die-offs we caused on Earth 400 years earlier... (Seriously, it's scary how much that sounds like an actual Trek plot.)Maybe the hirogen invade the alpha quadrant or a species of intransigent bees?
Which is really the struggle of the TNG films overall. They keep trying to capture some aspect of TWOK in order to make the film work, but it doesn't work and doesn't play off of the chemistry of the TNG crew.
So, as for fitting ends, yes "All Good Things" is the most fitting end of the TNG crew.
Aw man I’ve inadvertently ripped off Star Trek IV...Intransigent bees. I love it, that's perfect! And they've come across space seeking revenge for the bee die-offs we caused on Earth 400 years earlier... (Seriously, it's scary how much that sounds like an actual Trek plot.)
I would love to have a Trek movie that wasn't based on defeating a bad guy. I miss it. It really surprises me how rare it became after the success of STIV. But I suppose that it is easier to write a moustache twirling bad guy than a clever puzzle to solve or a nuanced drama. Easier to sell to the general public too they would probably argue (although again STIV's returns would suggest otherwise).It's funny, because aside from TWOK, the TOS movies didn't fall into this:
TMP - Antagonist was just a misunderstood, hyper-evolved computer probe.
STIII- Kruge existed as a baddy, but IMHO this was really something of a "B plot" of the movie, which was really about the bonds of friendship, not defeating the bad guy.
STIV - Light comedy. Existential threat to Earth in the background, but it was a "V'Ger" like unwitting threat.
STV - Sucked, but Sybok, while an antagonist, was not a bad guy.
STVI - Chang was a villain, it is true, but he was just one part of a wider conspiracy among elements in the Federation and Klingon government. Thus I always saw this more about the crew defeating the fear of change within the Federation and the Klingon Empire. Chang was not the problem, but a symptom of the problem.
And of course, since the reboot, we've gotten three movies in a row where it all comes down to Kirk and/or Spock battling the bad guys until they're good and dead.
**sigh**
Just imagine a movie about the Kelvin-TOS crew going back in time to fight climate change in the early 21st century. The half of America that voted for Donald "global warming was created by and for the Chinese" Trump would not be that enticed, I imagine. So, what I'm saying is I'm not opposed to the idea of that movieI would love to have a Trek movie that wasn't based on defeating a bad guy. I miss it. It really surprises me how rare it became after the success of STIV. But I suppose that it is easier to write a moustache twirling bad guy than a clever puzzle to solve or a nuanced drama. Easier to sell to the general public too they would probably argue (although again STIV's returns would suggest otherwise).
Yep. My thoughts exactly.For some reason these news leave me completely cold. After a disappointing first season of Discovery, I have little trust that these people will be able to produce a show that is worth anyone‘s time for year two, let alone five (!) parallel Trek shows. Please fix Discovery, before you venture into obscure ideas like a show about Picard (?), Kahn (?) or Starfleet cadets.![]()
They are already working on Discovery and many of the show runners (Berg, Haberts, Goldsmith) are gone, with Kurtzman at the helm now.For some reason these news leave me completely cold. After a disappointing first season of Discovery, I have little trust that these people will be able to produce a show that is worth anyone‘s time for year two, let alone five (!) parallel Trek shows. Please fix Discovery, before you venture into obscure ideas like a show about Picard (?), Kahn (?) or Starfleet cadets.![]()
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