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Alex Kurtzman Gets New Deal With CBS, Will Expand 'Star Trek' TV
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You're taking the piss, right? Moore's Bond is so campy as to be literally unwatchable.
Seriously, IMHO the only good Bond films are the early Connery ones (but they have to be considered in context... anyone who thinks TOS feels "dated" shouldn't even go near a '60s Bond film), and the Daniel Craig reboot ones.
I'd like to add Ron Moore to that list.
With people like him and JMS I think you'd really maintain the core of Trek but not repeat themselves.
I wish.
I'm not really disagreeing with you, but I do have to say that my all-time favorite Star Trek comic series was the Starfleet Academy series starring Nog.
And I see that I'm not alone in my love for that series.
I have the first several issues...possibly all of them...I do t know when it got cancelled. Only just found out hajime sorayama did the cover for the romulan Borg one shot.
I would be far more excited for this news if Kurtzman and Orci were nowhere to be involved.
I have no idea how people here have trust in Kurtzman to handle Star Trek well, he's shown time and time again he just doesn't get it on any level and his career is that of being basically a hack behind shallow cash grabs.
While I'm happy to get more Trek, I wish Trek was allowed to get a restraining order from these hacks and actual competent sci-fi show-runners were brought on board.
With or without Discovery, Star Trek is one of the most profitable pop-culture franchises in the world. Star Trek is basically an untapped gold mine in terms of entertainment. It's sad that CBS/Paramount have done nothing but mishandle the franchise since basically day one 50 years ago. (just look at the lack of video games, lack of animated series, poor quality of merchandise for most of Trek history etc) Star Trek has always survived in spite of CBS/Paramount and I think they're starting to realise the untapped potential they have with it. CBS/Paramount see Trek as their MCU or Disney Wars and if handled correctly it could be.
I have no idea how people here have trust in Kurtzman to handle Star Trek well, he's shown time and time again he just doesn't get it on any level and his career is that of being basically a hack behind shallow cash grabs.
While I'm happy to get more Trek, I wish Trek was allowed to get a restraining order from these hacks and actual competent sci-fi show-runners were brought on board.
With or without Discovery, Star Trek is one of the most profitable pop-culture franchises in the world. Star Trek is basically an untapped gold mine in terms of entertainment. It's sad that CBS/Paramount have done nothing but mishandle the franchise since basically day one 50 years ago. (just look at the lack of video games, lack of animated series, poor quality of merchandise for most of Trek history etc) Star Trek has always survived in spite of CBS/Paramount and I think they're starting to realise the untapped potential they have with it. CBS/Paramount see Trek as their MCU or Disney Wars and if handled correctly it could be.
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It’s in quote marks for a reason. I’m referencing your usage of it.
Roger Moore's Bond running along the backs of those crocodiles in 'Live and let die' was the franchises defining moment
I'm so happy Star Trek is expanding on TV. To be honest, I don't really care what it is, although a 24th century show would be great. Also, wouldn't mind going back to the time of Enterprise with the Romulan War and Birth of the Federation.
After Enterprise ended in 2005, everyting was doom and gloom for Star Trek fans for many years and now we're finally going back to the golden Berman years.
I find it exciting and fascinating!
After Enterprise ended in 2005, everyting was doom and gloom for Star Trek fans for many years and now we're finally going back to the golden Berman years.
I find it exciting and fascinating!
This is what worries me. Having seen Hawaii 5-0 as well i worry that Star Trek is going to end up as bland and formulaic as that. However I should probably check out one of the NCISes to see what all the fuss is about. I’m quite happy with the Arrowverse so maybe the NCISverse isn’t much different?
Are we, though? In the Berman years TOS was revered, they had hit films out (like TVH which spurned TNG) and next gen was the biggest thing on television.
I don’t get the sense that it’s the same now with DSC. And any other Trek to come out will likely be Discoverified - even if they do the Picard thing they suggested, it won’t look like TNG - just like the Enterprise D looked nothing like it should have in TATV - and we’ll all be back here arguing over whether Picard’s laptop in his ready room ever transformed into a sentient robot but we just never saw it or whatever.
I remain (in spite of my post!) cautiously optimistic.
And if DSC is to thank for more Trek on tv well then hang it all good for DSC.
How is anything that has Alex Kurtzman involved a "good thing"???
Wasn't he involved in Fringe?
I don't understand the hate he gets, he has done some good stuff and some not so good stuff like many people before him. Plus I doubt he'll be personally 100% responsible for everything Star Trek from now on.
A time in which there was a sequence of series, one after the other, and each less successful than the one before? That wouldn't be good.
Fans of the Universal Monsters sure won when Alex Kurtzman got hired for for the Dark UniverseThis is the best news about Trek I've heard in years! Multiple spin offs including an animated series and a possible TNG reunion. Well probably end up getting a show set in the Kelvin timeline too! Everyone wins!
Hate? The criticism is because Alex Kurtzman's creative output over the years has shown he's devoid of any meaningful talent
I think some of the blame can be attributed to Tom Cruise's contract giving him way too much control over the film.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/06/tom-cruise-the-mummy-control
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"CBS are plannning a star Trtek shared universe." TNG, DS9, VOY and even ENT all featured crossovers with each other. We were at it long before Marvel!
The Khan thing is blatently what Meyer has been working on for years - is it set before or after Space Seed? I'd like something similar to greg Cox's 'Eugenics Wars' books.
The animation could be anything from 5 minute shorts to a proper ongoing series. Old characters? New characters?
I hope there is a Picard mini with characters from TNG, DS9 and VOY. Nemesis was crap and we need a decent ending to that era. This fandom has concentrated soley on TOS for too long, time the TNG era had some love.
Pike and the Enterprise are in DSC - I wonder if they're planning to spin them off? That would effectively bring Trek full circle as The Cage was the first pilot.
The idea of a Starfleet Academy show doesn't interest me much.
God I hope hope hope we get an announcement at SDCC or VegasCon. PLEEASE CBS ?! Don't leave us here hanging
The Khan thing is blatently what Meyer has been working on for years - is it set before or after Space Seed? I'd like something similar to greg Cox's 'Eugenics Wars' books.
The animation could be anything from 5 minute shorts to a proper ongoing series. Old characters? New characters?
I hope there is a Picard mini with characters from TNG, DS9 and VOY. Nemesis was crap and we need a decent ending to that era. This fandom has concentrated soley on TOS for too long, time the TNG era had some love.
Pike and the Enterprise are in DSC - I wonder if they're planning to spin them off? That would effectively bring Trek full circle as The Cage was the first pilot.
The idea of a Starfleet Academy show doesn't interest me much.
God I hope hope hope we get an announcement at SDCC or VegasCon. PLEEASE CBS ?! Don't leave us here hanging
@Danlav05
It would have been astounding news to me as a child.
It's just the people who are running it who give me pause.
I'm not sure as a team, they are a step up from the talent of the 1987-2005 era.
TOS, TNG, DS9, etc are all compelling TV to watch in repeat, but I don't know that I could enjoy a repeat of DSC.
I would be overjoyed if they proved me wrong though, and a really astounding shared universe was created. I don't mean to criticise them just to knock people's confidence, but I am trying to criticise constructively; I think Star Trek can be genuinely be the most entertaining thing on television, especially for a geek; the fact that it isn't, even for entrenched fans/nerds, is a worrying barometer.... we don't even feel a particular desire to geek-out over new technical details, the fan reaction to spore drive and spinning wheels has been one of exasperation, when by comparison, I snapped up any little piece of information surrounding TOS or TNG.
Imagine how easy it would have been to play to the geek instinct, that tradition that acknowledges that many fans like the engineering aspects of a franchise (like Japanese fans of Gundam for example), and release technical specs on StarTrek.com weekly, in-universe videos of security briefings on different types of phaser, etc.
Instead of being judgemental and elitist and thinking these aspects of the franchise are somehow an unworthy expression, they have probably long contributed to both the appeal of Star Trek and Star Wars. Frankly, irrelevant of what people think of military science fiction, military enthusiasts, etc, the airplane-spotter aspect has always been a part of Star Trek's appeal. Even if you see Starfleet more as a research organisation, as a kid, the sense of it being a real service with real equipment and vehicles contributed to fan enjoyment.
On the whole, hasn't Trek been handled rather badly, from doing nothing for the 50th anniversary, to not capitalising on the potential for tech manuals, etc, since the 90s? By comparison to Japanese franchises like Gundam that get new model kits all the time.
It would have been astounding news to me as a child.
It's just the people who are running it who give me pause.
I'm not sure as a team, they are a step up from the talent of the 1987-2005 era.
TOS, TNG, DS9, etc are all compelling TV to watch in repeat, but I don't know that I could enjoy a repeat of DSC.
I would be overjoyed if they proved me wrong though, and a really astounding shared universe was created. I don't mean to criticise them just to knock people's confidence, but I am trying to criticise constructively; I think Star Trek can be genuinely be the most entertaining thing on television, especially for a geek; the fact that it isn't, even for entrenched fans/nerds, is a worrying barometer.... we don't even feel a particular desire to geek-out over new technical details, the fan reaction to spore drive and spinning wheels has been one of exasperation, when by comparison, I snapped up any little piece of information surrounding TOS or TNG.
Imagine how easy it would have been to play to the geek instinct, that tradition that acknowledges that many fans like the engineering aspects of a franchise (like Japanese fans of Gundam for example), and release technical specs on StarTrek.com weekly, in-universe videos of security briefings on different types of phaser, etc.
Instead of being judgemental and elitist and thinking these aspects of the franchise are somehow an unworthy expression, they have probably long contributed to both the appeal of Star Trek and Star Wars. Frankly, irrelevant of what people think of military science fiction, military enthusiasts, etc, the airplane-spotter aspect has always been a part of Star Trek's appeal. Even if you see Starfleet more as a research organisation, as a kid, the sense of it being a real service with real equipment and vehicles contributed to fan enjoyment.
On the whole, hasn't Trek been handled rather badly, from doing nothing for the 50th anniversary, to not capitalising on the potential for tech manuals, etc, since the 90s? By comparison to Japanese franchises like Gundam that get new model kits all the time.
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