That makes sense.
When Adira recited her hosts to Guardian Xi, was that done in chronological order?
Spoilers Ah, the NEW uniforms...!
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That makes sense.
When Adira recited her hosts to Guardian Xi, was that done in chronological order?
No clue, no mentioning of orders was mentioned, she just spoke the names.
I feel for the Trek designers. They had to reboot the look of the 23rd century to make it look modern. Then advance Next Gen era uniforms 20 years (although they had help from Countdown and early STO concept art for that). Then come up with a new cartoon version of the TNG era uniform. Now they're advancing the entire Trek universe 900 years, trying to make it look more advanced and different while still instantly recognisable as Trek...
It's not as hard as you make it sound if you actually like sci-fi which I'm starting to wonder if some of the DIS team do. Everyone on here who isn't a complete DIS apologist took one look and went ooh they look a bit BSG/SW/B5 or whatever so how does these uniforms get past a whole team of people without someone saying hey lads this look is a bit done and ya know what I think Trek fans like to be able to see the details on the badge
Where's your website detailing 900 years of Trek uniform evolution, then?
Why would you need one to know that those uniforms are bland generic uniforms.
As for as I'm concerned if out of an entire team of people they could not work out that making your uniforms the same colour as the one other mega famous sci-fi show that you are constantly mistake for and compared to since the 70s you are not very good at your job
ugh, almost exclusively grey on grey, spandexy - it's like the putty patrol from mighty morphing Power Rangers...
memo to the art department and folks in charge: a bit of color would look so good on HD or 4K, HDR TVs...
the only uniforms I'd wear is the: ENT and Beyond Franklin jumpsuits or the DS9 one, with the separate jacket.
memo to the art department and folks in charge: a bit of color would look so good on HD or 4K, HDR TVs...
the only uniforms I'd wear is the: ENT and Beyond Franklin jumpsuits or the DS9 one, with the separate jacket.
I like the one stripe kit and it's got TMP vibes but I would love to see that and the Admiral uniform in dark red/wine with black pants like a mix of TMP/TWOK also if the high collar the admirals inform was a DS9 undershirt rather than a hard collar. The bajoran uniform needs a complete redo
I do like having distinct admiral, ship and station gear which I hope is what is going on here
My current thinking is that Senna Tal was a Rear Admiral while Oded Fehr is a Fleet Admiral, which I'm basing entirely on their collars. Not sure yet how their epaulets factor in.
Well at least they didn't go heavy on copying the Braxton uniformsIf I didn’t know it was 32nd century, the uniforms wouldn’t look out of place in post Archer era either
Gray also looks good. At least to me.
4k or not the design makes sense.
An impossible task because no matter what it won't satisfy.
They supposed Admiral variant collar and rank insignia (The bottom group of pictures) give off a very "Mobile Suit Gundam" vibe to me.So, here they are -- the future Starfleet uniforms finally appear in 3x05 "Die Trying"
First impressions:
- Grey.
- Starfleet still likes a close fit.
- Admirals still have redundant duplication of insignia!
- The new combadges are there.
- The tick / check-marks on the collar definitely seem to have significance.
The new uniforms seem to come in several basic types:
1. A more formal variant with a jacket and a coloured stripe down the right side of the body
So far, we can see white and also (on background extras) blue and golden yellow.
2. A less formal variant (a one piece) with coloured sleeves and yoke and a different torso and legs.
So far, we have seen what appears to be dark blue over the standard grey and white over what could be the grey but might be the same dark blue (the lighting makes it a little tricky to be sure.
3. The Admirals' variant of the formal grey jacket
No coloured stripe down the front but a coloured patch at the front of the collar and matching piping around the edge of the collar and the shoulders. In this case, the colour is red. There are black epaulette / shoulder straps with gold piped edging and insignia that seem to follow the mirrored pair of insignia on the collar.
The close-up shots also reveal that there's quite a bit more construction detail in terms of the texture / quilting on the shoulders that can be seen from a distance.
Let the discussion begin...!!
Or no matter what they do you will defend it because you cant seem to bring yourself to criticise a single thing in DIS or even let it slide when someone else has a negative opinion
How does one jump from "I don't like this uniform design" to "DIS team doesn't like sci-fi"?
In the same way that you see everything is derivative, And somehow believe that the people involved in The production of the Star Trek Discovery series must not like science fiction because:
"New and original ideas are so easy..."
Really? why not do some rough sketches yourself and put them up here and let us tear them apart because believe me - The majority of science fiction uniforms I've seen across 140 years of science fiction have always taken their inspiration from history, or other areas of the entertainment industry.
It's very easy to claim something as 'unoriginal' when you have no idea how such things are created in the first place.
And my friend you don't seem to have any clue in that respect.
Togas. Togas never go out of style.
I have criticized decisions at times. But DSC is held to impossible standards.
Some of these new uniforms I like, some of them I don't but, given the options, I'm glad the Discovery crew is sticking with their uniforms.
One odd thing: The PIC Uniform was never my favorite (it gets the job done and that's about it), but it looked really unflattering on the Tal host from the 2390s.
One odd thing: The PIC Uniform was never my favorite (it gets the job done and that's about it), but it looked really unflattering on the Tal host from the 2390s.
I don’t mind the new uniforms. Yeah, the light grey is a bit bland and a lot of the familiar expected Starfleet cues aren't so obviously there in terms of colors and design features -- but they've moved so far forward that I don't really think that should be an issue. I totally get that it’s kinda difficult for people to get their heads around what 900+ years really means!
In simplified rounded numbers, the period of Star Trek history that we know well, from Discovery to Picard, is from roughly 2250 to 2400, a total of ~250 years. Discovery emerges into the future in roughly 3190, which is nearly 800 years after Picard. Big changes are not unreasonable in that respect.
The things that I do find irritating about he new 3189 uniforms is that there are three entirely separate designs with only very limited continuity between them. I get that the less formal jumpsuit may have more differences in appearance but I don't quite understand why the admiral variant has such different design features to the formal uniform with the jacket.
I've never understood why the later designers felt the need to deviate so far from the standard uniforms where creating the flag officer variants. In TOS they were the same uniform bar the obvious differences in sleeve rank insignia and a different breast badge. In TWOK onwards, it was the same uniform with some incremental embellishments by rank. The closest the TNG era got was the season four onwards admirals' jacket and it's black equivalent from DS9 and the later movies.
Ironically, the earlier Discovery costumes were actually quite clever in this regard, with the simple addition of gold detailing to the shoulder quilting for captain and the same but extended to the top of the sleeve for admirals. Even the idea of a standard badge design for all admirals but increasing the number of gold elements within the Delta-based laurel wreath was both clever and effective.
In simplified rounded numbers, the period of Star Trek history that we know well, from Discovery to Picard, is from roughly 2250 to 2400, a total of ~250 years. Discovery emerges into the future in roughly 3190, which is nearly 800 years after Picard. Big changes are not unreasonable in that respect.
The things that I do find irritating about he new 3189 uniforms is that there are three entirely separate designs with only very limited continuity between them. I get that the less formal jumpsuit may have more differences in appearance but I don't quite understand why the admiral variant has such different design features to the formal uniform with the jacket.
I've never understood why the later designers felt the need to deviate so far from the standard uniforms where creating the flag officer variants. In TOS they were the same uniform bar the obvious differences in sleeve rank insignia and a different breast badge. In TWOK onwards, it was the same uniform with some incremental embellishments by rank. The closest the TNG era got was the season four onwards admirals' jacket and it's black equivalent from DS9 and the later movies.
Ironically, the earlier Discovery costumes were actually quite clever in this regard, with the simple addition of gold detailing to the shoulder quilting for captain and the same but extended to the top of the sleeve for admirals. Even the idea of a standard badge design for all admirals but increasing the number of gold elements within the Delta-based laurel wreath was both clever and effective.
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