Agents of SHIELD: Season 6

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  1. The Nth Doctor

    The Nth Doctor Infinite Possibilities... Premium Member

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    The face-stealing device was cool, but godsdamnit, HYDRA again? Bleah. I guess I shouldn't be surprised since this is the final season and all...
     
  2. Christopher

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    Well, they're traveling into the past before Hydra was defeated, so it stands to reason.
     
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  3. Henoch

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    I expect we'll get to revisit all the main characters over the years as one last sendoff to the AoS fans. I hope they give us more happy resolutions than not. :)
     
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  4. Alidar Jarok

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    And seemingly so unnecessary too ;)

    Seriously, though, the travel through Marvel history seems like a good idea. I'm looking forward to it. I wish the Chronocoms had some kind of actual comic connection, but that's about my only complaint.
     
  5. Christopher

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    Yeah. If you think about it, the idea of "erasing" the facial features and leaving blank skin behind is getting it backward, because the facial features are basically holes in the skin, so replacing them all with unbroken skin is an additive process rather than a subtractive one.
     
  6. JD

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    I'm curious to see more of the MCU's history, we really don't know much about anything between when the Asgardians were on Earth, and WWII.
     
  7. Enterprise is Great

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    We'll probably see Grant Ward again
     
  8. JD

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    I wonder if they'll introduce the idea that S.H.I.E.L.D. is the latest in series of orginizations going back centuries, like in the comics?
     
  9. Nerys Myk

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    Anything but that.
     
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  10. The Nth Doctor

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    I hope not, especially since it's been clearly established that Peggy Carter founded SHIELD. I don't want that taken from her.
     
  11. Guy Gardener

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    Peggy inventing Shield is a retcon.
     
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  12. Nerys Myk

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    So?
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    No big.

    Liv Tyler as Red She-Hulk?

    Although if Banner has his shit together, albeit more than human, why isn't he back with Betty?
     
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    At this point, it's been well over a decade. Hell, after the <muffled Endgame spoilers> it's probably coming up on the better part of *two decades* since the accident. So far as we know, he had no contact with Betty when he fled to India. After that it seems he was mostly hiding in Stark Tower, which would be the only window for them to reconnect since after that it's Ultron, two years in space followed by 18 months in the <more muffled Endgame spoilers> until he'd be in any kind of state to reconnect.

    She was "already" dating after the first five years he was on the run, by the time Professor Hulk is a thing I'd expect Betty to be married with kids or something.
    On the plus side, since it's 1931 this would be classic, Literal Nazis Hydra. Come to think of it, since this is supposedly about protecting SHIELD's history, perhaps the objective in this period is about Erskine's defection and recruitment?
    One would imagine that would be the logical keystone event in that decade.

    Other story possibilities that leap to mind could be the fake William Burnside version of Cap in the 50's, A very young Hank Pym in the 60's and a late Vietnam War era Sgt. Nick Fury.
     
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    Doing a selected re-watch and am in the last part of season 2. Just want to say, they did Agent 33 dirty, IMO.

    She was kidnapped by Whitehall and Hydra and brainwashed. She then was abandoned by the team only to fall under the thrall of Grant Ward, who she falls in love with, and who the team tricks into killing her. I mean, they even rescued Raina once.

    Why didn't they rescue her or at least have her go out somehow regaining her right mind and trying to free herself or foil some Hydra plot.

    It didn't screw up the series or anything for me of course, but it bothered me before and it still bothers me a bit.
     
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  16. DEWLine

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    Agent 33 was indeed done wrong.
     
  17. Turtletrekker

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    While I do feel sorry for Agent 33, who was as much a victim of Hydra as anybody, she did pose a legitimate deadly threat at the time. Rescuing her might not even have been an option. She was subjected to the same brainwashing techniques as Bucky, or at least techniques created by the same person (Johann Fennhoff AKA Doctor Faustus, whom we met on Agent Carter), and Bucky could only be cured of the programming by way of advanced Wakandan technology.
     
  18. The Nth Doctor

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    Yeah, I was always bugged by how the show handled Agent 33 and how poorly she was treated. And then completely forgotten about.
     
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    If this is the in universe explanation, that's fine. But I just think the producers could have still found a way to somehow redeem the character before her demise. It would also have made Coulson and his team look like who he always purported them to be.

    We could have seen the team attempt a rescue and then have her die as a part of that rescue. This could have been a secondary goal when they went in to rescue Bobby after she was kidnapped by Ward. That would have been more in character for Coulson and the team.

    It was so obvious that 33 was there completely in service of the Ward character, rather than as a standalone character on her own.
     
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