Agents of SHIELD season 5

[Starscream2112]

I guess if they want to they could have a few episodes show the aftermath of the Snap and then the rest happen after Avengers 4 and that way avoid spoiling it. On A side note I wound id AOS will become a regular summer series or an on demand one on ABC.com?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I meant fallout from Infinity War, not Avengers 4. That's what I get for posting while getting ready for work. Meaning essentially they're not going to be dealing with the snapture directly until the movies do at the very least.

ETA-- I edited my original post to hopefully avoid the same confusion. Sorry.

You misunderstand me. I didn't mean directly dealing with the fallout, merely that the finale might acknowledge the finger-snap, possibly including some cast members disappearing (at least temporarily in season 6). Or alternatively, acknowledge that it happens in the world but somehow (possibly because of the rumor theory I posted about earlier) everyone in the cast survives. After that, I assume they'll handle the situation on their own like they did with The Winter Soldier but not directly resolve anything.

On a side note, I wondering if AOS will become a regular summer series or an on demand one on ABC.com?

I'm wondering the same thing and that might even help revitalize the show's viewership, and if nothing else, take off the pressure and allow for delayed viewership numbers, as suggested by the ABC president in the TV Line article.


A thought occurs: Normally the show and the movies don't line up directly all that well partially for planning issues (obviously not just that...), but I wonder since most of The Untitled Sequel is already in the can and season 6 hasn't even been written yet, might there be some closer connection with the film, maybe even a cameo or two?

 

[Turtletrekker]

So are all the other MCU TV shows -- the five on Netflix, Cloak and Dagger, Runaways -- going to pretend they're set before Infinity War, or just gloss over the whole question?

They will probably be set before Infinity War just like Ant-Man and the Wasp. That's no big deal to me. I grew up reading comics that would occasionally have an editor's note on the front page that says, "This issue takes place before issue such and such".

 

[Reverend]

AoS is the only show directly connected to the movies, so to date it's the only one that's done more than passingly referenced larger events of the MCU. So honestly, I can't see it being an issue with any of the others.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The Netflix shows have tagged The Battle of New York, as well as some of the more popular Avengers by metaphor.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

The Netflix shows have tagged The Battle of New York, as well as some of the more popular Avengers by metaphor.

Yeah, but that's about it and they did those shout outs in the vaguest way possible.

Hell, I still find it questionable that SHIELD didn't ever come sniffing around when Luke Cage became publicly known after that building was dropped on him.

 

[Anwar]

Yeah, but that's about it and they did those shout outs in the vaguest way possible.

They mentioned the Raft, and Nuke's whole character was a reference to Captain America. And the Judas Bullets in Luke Cage were reverse-engineered by Justin Hammer from Chitauri weapons, etc.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

They mentioned the Raft, and Nuke's whole character was a reference to Captain America. And the Judas Bullets in Luke Cage were reverse-engineered by Justin Hammer from Chitauri weapons, etc.

Fair points. I did think of the Judas Bullets, although I couldn't remember what they were a reference to and I did forget about the Raft shout out. Which is funny because it was the most recent reference.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Should I even bother seeing Infinity War at this point, or have I read everything there is to know about the movie in this thread?

 

[Reverend]

I do believe I specifically said "passingly referenced larger events". Which is pretty much all these are and if things continue in that mode, then the likelyhood of *you-know-what* having any direct impact on the shows in fairly minimal.

 

[Morpheus 02]

So...going back to the show... I am assuming Daisy will disappear this Friday to put her out of commission for Avengers 4....but if they communicated to the showrunners, they can make season 6 take place solidly after Avengers 4 with no major story clashing.

 

[David cgc]

Good having the season come out after Avengers 4 is the only way to make it work.

Spoiler: potential spoilers for Avengers 4

Since we know there is going to be reversal of snaptured people, and potentially erasure of 10 years of history after the snap,

AOS can't go forward until we see what the Status Quo is after Avengers 4.

Spoiler: The Avengers 4 Rumors

I certainly wouldn't mind an episode or two of AoS next season in the vein of SG-1's 2010, with a flashforward that's undone in the end. Plus, it'd be super-weird for them not to have the Snapture in the finale this week after making it clear over and over we're in the Infinity War timeframe, but it'd be even weirder to have it, and then have next season start up as if it hadn't happened (or, like, begin with the last five minutes or whatever of this finale redone without anyone disintegrating). There are limits to trans-media tie-ins, and if SHILED shows the effects of Infinity War, they're going to have to play along with undoing it to an extent within the show and not just let the movie take care of it without any further acknowledgement.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Yoyo should have mentioned the Mad Titan to herself, back when she had a chance.

 

[RJDiogenes]

Well, it's nice to get official confirmation of the renewal, even though I was pretty optimistic. It's kind of a drag that we'll only get thirteen episodes, though, and not for over a year-- shades of Doctor Who. I wonder if that's because they're planning it to be the final season or if it's a compromise between ABC and the Mouse. I think ABC has only been renewing this show under duress for several years.

 

[Christopher]

13-episode seasons or less are increasingly the norm for hourlong dramas, since serialized season arcs work better with fewer episodes and less padding. Heck, people keep criticizing the 13-episode Netflix Marvel shows for being too padded out in the middle, saying they'd be better off at 8 to 10 episodes. And AoS has already broken its past two seasons into 2 or 3 distinct story arcs; doing a shorter season overall seems the logical next step. I see no reason to interpret it as a negative or a vote of no confidence in the show, when it's exactly the sort of thing that more and more shows are intentionally embracing.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

13-episode seasons or less are increasingly the norm for hourlong dramas, since serialized season arcs work better with fewer episodes and less padding. Heck, people keep criticizing the 13-episode Netflix Marvel shows for being too padded out in the middle, saying they'd be better off at 8 to 10 episodes. And AoS has already broken its past two seasons into 2 or 3 distinct story arcs; doing a shorter season overall seems the logical next step. I see no reason to interpret it as a negative or a vote of no confidence in the show, when it's exactly the sort of thing that more and more shows are intentionally embracing.

Indeed, although in the case of the Netflix shows, they have the benefit of actually being an hour long (give or take however minutes for narrative needs), whereas Agents is about 40 minutes with commercials removed. I think 13 episodes will be the perfect amount for the season.

 

[cylkoth]

The 22 episode order is an artifact from the traditional scheduling structure of the September thru May television season. Eps get a first run plus one repeat (normally, in the old days). If you don't start in the fall, then you didn't need a full season to fill out the schedule.

 

[Christopher]

The 22 episode order is an artifact from the traditional scheduling structure of the September thru May television season. Eps get a first run plus one repeat (normally, in the old days). If you don't start in the fall, then you didn't need a full season to fill out the schedule.

In the early days of TV, before reruns were common, a season could run 30-plus episodes, usually with another, shorter series taking its time slot in the summer. By the end of the '60s, 26 episodes (half a year) was the norm, and that lasted until the '90s when it dropped to 22 episodes to save money. The Star Trek shows up through the first couple of seasons of Enterprise stuck with 26-episode seasons long after nearly everyone else had dropped to 22.

Although in recent years, while some shows have dropped to 13- or 10- or 8-episode seasons, we're actually seeing more network shows going back up in season length to 24 or 25 episodes per year.

 

[Romulan_spy]

We might be in for an emotional roller coaster tonight. Chloe Bennett tweeted this:
https://twitter.com/chloebennet/status/997562852440399872

 

[Christopher]

I hope it doesn't spoil too much from Infinity War if it does tie in. My library hold on Thor: Ragnarok is finally within a day or so of arrival, and obviously I can't see IW until I've seen that. (Although my financial situation has started to look up a bit, so I can probably spare a few bucks to see IW soon.)

Although it took less than a day after IW came out for someone to spoil me on the ending, and it's been talked about pretty openly online ever since, despite all the prior entreaties from Marvel/Disney about not spoiling anything. So I know the basics of how it ends, but I hope they don't give away too much more.