Agents of SHIELD season 5

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  1. JD

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    Good pint.
    In case anyone missed it, I edited my last post to add the title and description for tonight's episode.
     
  2. Marc

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    and given the layers, maybe they also have to wait few minutes each for it to dry.
     
  3. David cgc

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    Indeed. I was watching an episode of "Enterprise" recently, and there was a close-up shot of Phlox, and you could see the mesh base for his eyebrows and hairpiece as big as life. And that was in season 4, when they were shooting and airing in HD.
     
  4. Starscream2112

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    Here it is Friday night and I am wondering "Is it 8 yet?' Good grief! I am fighting my fatigue to stay up for Agents of Shied! I feel old!
     
  5. The Nth Doctor

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    "Come on, a room full of secret agents, scientists, and superheros! Someone give me something!"

    Hooray, the whole team (sans May) is finally back together!

    ...and that didn't last long.

    Another great episode, even if it was mostly a cat-and-mouse chase. I remain unimpressed by Deke but I don't distrust his motives anymore. I just don't care.

    I'm not at all surprised to see Robin at the end of episode in the secret SHIELD hideout and I expect Deke's father will be there, too.

    I still find the physics of a crescent Earth dubious at best. But this is the same show that cured Leo's brain damage over a short period of time, so I guess hard science isn't really a major consideration for the writers.

    So Jemma's implant was relatively (albeit painfully) removed but no one thinks to try to do the same for Daisy? That seems weird, but okay.

    Pity Faulnak was disposed of so quickly. It was great seeing Samuel Roukin again, musket in hand and all (and thankfully no absurd high-pitch voice). At least he died by musket, something Simcoe managed to avoid more than once.

    Turns out I was wrong about Kasius dying. The moment happened so quickly that I could've sworn Jemma sliced his neck, even if it was out of character for her. Glad Sinara is taking a more active role and has more lines, and I loved how much she loathed Kasius' slimy, weak begging. She may still be on Kasius' side after he disposed of his brother, but I wouldn't be surprised if she ditches him later on. Not entirely clear why she saved him during the much-talked-about battle before his exile though. I guess she didn't think he was weak then.
     
  6. Mr. Adventure

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    ^ Yeah, I thought she slit his throat as well. It does makes sense her scarring him given his discussion with her about her flawless features.

    I think his skin has a more mottled appearance than her’s does and I’m assuming that’s by intent and the makeup process facilitates that.
     
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  7. Guy Gardener

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    Maybe they were both damaged by a similar weapon.

    Kree are the source of the House Guest medicine that brings humans back from the dead.

    Maybe his throat was slit?
     
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  9. Turtletrekker

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    Gravitonium! And here I thought this was a little plot thread that would never be revisited. I wonder if the future destruction the Earth can be more properly blamed upon the return of season 1 hanging plot thread Franklin Hall, AKA Graviton? Whatever happened to Ian Quinn anyway?
     
  10. Christopher

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    It's the Marvel Universe. The science has always been... inconsistent at best. Go back to the very beginning -- when Tony Stark first crashlanded inside his primitive metal Mark I suit with no internal padding or repulsor fields or whatever, his body should've been turned to mush inside the suit.


    Different kinds of implant. Jemma's is just something that slithered into her ear canal like a Babel fish. Daisy's is surgically embedded in her skull behind her ear.

    Remember, they said she's of common birth. To nobles like Kasius's brother and father, "strength" means lording it over those they consider their inferiors, including common-born Kree. Since Kasius was less "strong" in that respect, he didn't have as much contempt for Sinara as they would have, and would've been more likely to notice and respect her abilities, thereby earning her loyalty. Plus, he needed her strength to keep him alive, which made her valuable to him -- and him valuable to her as an avenue for gaining advancement. Or maybe just as someone who appreciated her personally in a way she hadn't been before. While there are pragmatic reasons for their connection, I got the sense they really care for each other, maybe even love each other in a way.
     
  11. Alidar Jarok

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    There also seems to be some indication that the gravity on Earth is unnatural, hence the references to weird things like gravity storms.
     
  12. Christopher

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    Yeah, the "gravity storms" seem like a handwave to give some acknowledgment to the fact that the gravity should be lower without having to spend too much time on wirework stunts. So most of the time they're walking around normally, but occasionally the gravity drops away.

    On the other hand, they did establish that the Lighthouse facility uses gravitonium to generate its artificial gravity. So maybe the gravity storms are a clue that there's gravitonium flowing about throughout the ruins of the Earth, and that will turn out to lead toward the true explanation for the planet's destruction. There are a lot of folks online speculating that we'll finally get some payoff to the Franklin Hall/Graviton plot point set up way back in season 1.
     
  13. JD

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    Another good one.
    It was nice to get to learn a bit more about Kasius's backstory. I was not surprised his brother ended up dead, I figured one of them was gone by the end of the arc.
    It was nice to finally get to Sinara get more to do, and to get the whole team back together.
    Robin still being alive and on the surface was big surprise for me.
    I just recently seen an article on CBR about the Gravitonium so I wasn't surprised to see it pop back up.
     
  14. kitik

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    Graviton is a far more likely suspect for blowing up the earth than Daisy. And he's also at least some sort of comicbook-science explanation for how the earth could exist and physics could function in it's current state.

    Decent episode, funny that the highlights were probably Kasius and Sinara.


    So, we've got an earth that's fallen apart. And as of right now, we've got a grand total one one new Inhuman, whose power just so happens to be putting rocks back together. What are the odds that at the end of this arc he vows to spend the next 50 years putting the earth back together piece by piece? (I don't think they'll find some super-science way to have him do it all at once, right?)
     
  15. Lyon_Wonder

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    My guess is that the Kree, who emphasize warrior-prowess above all else, are much like the Klingons and I think Kasius was exiled by his father because keeping him around in the Kree Empire would have dishonored his entire family.

    Kasius killing his brother had a Grant Ward vibe since I think Kasius blames his family for his problems.

    As you remember in Season 2 Ward killed his brother Christian and his parents, though that was off screen.
     
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    Ah, that's better. I like that more than Gemma slitting his throat. That was a bit too Dirty Harry for me.
     
  17. Christopher

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    Still, it looked like she was aiming for his throat but he pushed her arm up just in time.
     
  18. Marc

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    And on reflection it's a more fitting punishment given his treatment of anyone who wasn't "perfect" in their looks.
     
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    I didn't either, the possibility hadn't even occured to me. I have to compliment the writers for writing into the show in a way that felt natural to the story.