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Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
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I think Hellfire James survived the finale since it looked like he was simply knocked unconscious. Hellfire would be the only inhuman under Hive's sway who wasn't killed or cured before he was defeated and the parasites would still be in Hellfire's head. I hope Hellfire shows up again in Season 4 assuming that Leo and Jemma finally find a cure for Hive's parasites, though we don't know what happens to the parasite-infected mind of a swayed inhuman if he or she's completely cut off from Hive.
Maybe the parasites reproduce until there's another Hive, only without the centuries of memories.
Seeing as how the ratings are almost half of what they were at the end of season 1, a lot of peeps think it's a good idea.
Are you a Vorlon?
So you have another hour of Shondaland on ABC
And those people probably aren't posting in this thread either.
S.H.I.E.L.D. is literally the only program on ABC that I am interested in watching at this point.
I wasn't a big fan of how they wrapped up this season with Emo-Skye going solo, but overall, this season was good and they covered quite a bit. I was hoping they would stop the spreading of the terrigen in the ocean (because the longer they don't, the harder it is to ignore that the movies aren't recognizing it) and I wanted to see Deathlok fight alongside with the Secret Warriors (who should have been called in with them) but it still was a fun ride. It sucks to see Lincoln go. He finally grew on me. And I can't believe Ward is dead. Really. I figured if they didn't kill him off during Whitehall's run, they weren't going to.
They can't bring him back after that right? Right!?!
They can't bring him back after that right? Right!?!
Not in a conventional way.
They could go LMD, clone, flashback, paralell universe maybe, shapeshifter, dreams, head Ward,...
But old regular Ward is about as gone as it gets.
They could go LMD, clone, flashback, paralell universe maybe, shapeshifter, dreams, head Ward,...
But old regular Ward is about as gone as it gets.
I don't understand this "the movies aren't acknowledging what's going on in the show" thing at all. Specifically, directly, no, but why would they? They've certainly acknowledged in general that powered people have been increasingly popping up all over the place. (The conversation at the end of Ant-Man is one example that comes immediately to mind.) Sure, no one's used the term "Inhuman" but this is a self-applied term that the general public would have no knowledge of.
I'm also reminded of the point Coulson makes to Daisy/Skye early on in the show, in the episode "0-8-4":
COULSON: Remember the panic when that antimatter meteor splashed down just off the coast of Miami and nearly devoured the city?
SKYE: No.
COULSON: Precisely, because we kept it quiet and contained.
When these people are doing their jobs correctly, people don't know about it. It's only when things go horribly, terribly, massively wrong that they do.
And I can't believe how dumb that question posed to Bennett was. Isn't it bloody frickin' obvious why Cap and Stark and the other Avengers "haven't dropped by to help" in light of Civil War?
Oh, and even without the very explicit confirmation on the show, whom did anyone think Fury was referring to when he talked about his "old friends" helping him with the hellicarrier in Age Of Ultron? That kind of oblique reference is plenty. There's no reason to burden the general movie audience with the particulars of TV show continuity when there's already a lot to keep track of just between the films themselves. The established dynamic between the two media is fine by me as it is.
I'm also reminded of the point Coulson makes to Daisy/Skye early on in the show, in the episode "0-8-4":
COULSON: Remember the panic when that antimatter meteor splashed down just off the coast of Miami and nearly devoured the city?
SKYE: No.
COULSON: Precisely, because we kept it quiet and contained.
When these people are doing their jobs correctly, people don't know about it. It's only when things go horribly, terribly, massively wrong that they do.
And I can't believe how dumb that question posed to Bennett was. Isn't it bloody frickin' obvious why Cap and Stark and the other Avengers "haven't dropped by to help" in light of Civil War?
Oh, and even without the very explicit confirmation on the show, whom did anyone think Fury was referring to when he talked about his "old friends" helping him with the hellicarrier in Age Of Ultron? That kind of oblique reference is plenty. There's no reason to burden the general movie audience with the particulars of TV show continuity when there's already a lot to keep track of just between the films themselves. The established dynamic between the two media is fine by me as it is.
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Imagine if half the audience that saw the movie, decided to watch the TV show?
Imagine that if everyone who bought the CIVIL War DVD, then bought 3 seasons of Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D. DVDs, because the movie hinted that cool and important things were happening on the small screen.
Imagine that if everyone who bought the CIVIL War DVD, then bought 3 seasons of Agent's of S.H.I.E.L.D. DVDs, because the movie hinted that cool and important things were happening on the small screen.
I don't see how it would improve the films in any way to act as advertisements for the TV show. It's already a little too "cute" when the TV show has scenes (and occasionally whole episodes) that seem to be blatant advertisements for the movies. Although I have as much fun geeking out about it in the moment as the next fellow, I often feel a little guilty afterwards. I can't imagine it's anything but off-putting and eyeroll-inducing to casual viewers.
And as @Christopher pointed out in the Agent Carter thread recently, incessant trading of references doesn't make a shared universe feel bigger and more expansive, it makes it feel smaller and more insular.
And as @Christopher pointed out in the Agent Carter thread recently, incessant trading of references doesn't make a shared universe feel bigger and more expansive, it makes it feel smaller and more insular.
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yet they found the time for Thor's vision
It certainly makes sense to lay the groundwork for and foreshadow upcoming movies involving these specific characters and elements—Ragnarok and Infinity War in this case. These are things that are actually pertinent going forward. There's no reason why peripheral secondary media produced by other people in another department deserves the same status, and I would ask, in what franchise has that ever proved to be a workable scenario? Plus, as I said, the fact that the audience already has this much on its plate to digest (and the writers on their hands to juggle) is, if anything, an argument against adding yet more.
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Have you ever heard of this show called Star Trek?
Which was widely derided as the most unnecessary part of the film.
Of course, the main reason it isn't feasible for the films to reference the shows is that the movies take much, much longer to make. The script for a movie is going to be in place anywhere from a year and a half to two years before the movie premieres, whereas a TV episode is going to be written maybe just 2-4 months before it airs. There's no way for the movies' makers to know what the status of the show's characters and storylines is going to be more than a year in the future, so there's really no way for the references to flow in that direction. It could be possible for a movie to bring back a character who was last seen on TV a couple of years before, but any reference to contemporaneous events would be very hard to achieve. In those cases where a line from a movie seems like it's referencing events from a show (like Fury's line about his "old friends" helping him with the Helicarrier), that's because the makers of the show had a year or more of advance notice and were able to craft their storyline to make it seem like they were what the movie was referencing.
Ok, I'm a bit behind on the show, and I'm currently watching episode 21. Why is Simmons being such an ass to Daisy? Daisy was mind controlled when she did bad things, but she's being treated like she betrayed SHIELD of her own free will. We're talking "this is how they would have talked to Ward" levels of anger toward her. It really makes Simmons come off as a huge jerk. They've been through too much not to understand what mind control is, but Simmons seems to be ignoring all of that. It feels like forced drama honestly.
