At the very least it probably has simply to do with something that is poison to you being in the hands of your perceived enemy.
Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
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If the rumors of the Inhumans movie being cancelled are true, the plus side is that it would give AoS more license to explore things like the Royal Family.
I'd prefer to see Lockjaw, Medusa, etc. on a big screen, though.
There really is no reason whatsoever to believe that rumor is true.
Now if generic no-name actor shows up as Black Bolt on episode 16 of AOS this season...
The movie. Either the Royal family is living in a second kree city that does not send off an alert to the Kree that inhumans exist and should be annihilated immediately, they just got inhumanized by fish oil, or they were a competeing faction to Afterlife.
They're pretty sedate to let all the shite carry on, if thye really are in charge.
Unless Afterlife and Jiaying was hiding form the Royal Family, and not the humans?
They're pretty sedate to let all the shite carry on, if thye really are in charge.
Unless Afterlife and Jiaying was hiding form the Royal Family, and not the humans?
There's no reason to dismiss it out of hand either. It jibes with what we know of Feige and Perlmutter's relationship, and Feige's ambivalence towards the television side of things at Marvel.
Or they're just not around right now.
Offworld Inhuman colony? Some form of suspended animation? Lost through some portal?
Plenty of possibilities to choose from.
https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/marvel-indeed-still-releasing-inhumans-012000506.html
In the 1980s (FF #240) John Byrne revealed that (much like in Star Gate Atlantis) that the massive city where everyone lived, was also a Space Ship, and they took it to the Moon because the raising levels of pollution caused by humans were too toxic for the Inhumans to cope with.
#### Earth.
The problem being is that once you get them up there, or suggest that they have always been there, you can't say Blue Area of the Moon or the Watcher's Neighbour, without Fox getting pissy because that's all under the Fantastic Four's licensing umbrella. Although, I'm amazed that the Inhumans are not too either.
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In stasis since the dank past is good, but then you have bad writing showing the grating impossibility of supoer slow assimilation (like Gloria in Modern Family) and worse writers showing instiassimilation, like in The Vampire Diaries yesterday were these people trapped in limbo since 1902 are fine with cell phones already.
Earth Final Conflict almost did this perfectly though. A Roman senator from 300 bc, taking a nap for a century, walking the Earth for a couple months and then going back to sleep another century. He was waiting for an alien invasion that wasn't really as imminent as he'd been told it was going to be. So, 23 hundred years later, he wakes up 5 years too late, with a super weapon to defend Earth effectively with with the will to use it as soon as someone with the moral imperative to speak for the future gave him permission to use it.
That story went from super awesome to super crappy in seconds after the Roman dude died in the same episode he showed up in, and the super weapon was broken or lost, and the entire adventure suddenly amounted to a hill of beans.
#### you Earth Final Conflict.
#### Earth.
The problem being is that once you get them up there, or suggest that they have always been there, you can't say Blue Area of the Moon or the Watcher's Neighbour, without Fox getting pissy because that's all under the Fantastic Four's licensing umbrella. Although, I'm amazed that the Inhumans are not too either.
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In stasis since the dank past is good, but then you have bad writing showing the grating impossibility of supoer slow assimilation (like Gloria in Modern Family) and worse writers showing instiassimilation, like in The Vampire Diaries yesterday were these people trapped in limbo since 1902 are fine with cell phones already.
Earth Final Conflict almost did this perfectly though. A Roman senator from 300 bc, taking a nap for a century, walking the Earth for a couple months and then going back to sleep another century. He was waiting for an alien invasion that wasn't really as imminent as he'd been told it was going to be. So, 23 hundred years later, he wakes up 5 years too late, with a super weapon to defend Earth effectively with with the will to use it as soon as someone with the moral imperative to speak for the future gave him permission to use it.
That story went from super awesome to super crappy in seconds after the Roman dude died in the same episode he showed up in, and the super weapon was broken or lost, and the entire adventure suddenly amounted to a hill of beans.
#### you Earth Final Conflict.
As you say, not everything you'd expect is Fox property, and they's have trouble enforcing a right to have characters living on a certain section of the moon anyway.
Besides that, there should be way more give in the Fox-Marvel relationship at the moment. Fox have both a huge failure in the FF, plus plans for an X-Men TV show. Or putting it bluntly, something they might not want any more and something they need the TV rights for. It's not hard to see why both sides would benefit from talking to each other.
Marvel need to get the relationship between film and television sorted. Getting rid of Perlmutter entirely might help, but however they do it, things need to be a little more cohesive.
I have no probem appreciating that Daredevil takes place in the MCU, despite very few ties, whereas AoS seems very much bolted on, despite cameo's and story links.
FOX doesn't own the rights to the Fantastic Four. They manage or lease the rights from a rinky dink operation in eastern Europe who bought the FF for chump change back in 1986 when Marvel was really hurt moneywise.
FOX can't give the rights back to Marvel, or wilfully allow the rights to lapse without defaulting on their agreements with Constantin Films to act in good faith and make money for everyone, which obviously sounds like a law suit waiting to happen. FOX can sever their relationship Constantin or vice versus, but that in itself would be difficult if the division was not amicable.
Once/if Constantin does not have FOX acting as Big Brother, they'll either find a new partner or sell the rights outright for a massive profit, or more likely frakk up and the rights will lapse to Marvel 7 years after the last movie that got off the ground bombed.
It saves time to say that Fox owns the rights, even if that's not at all true, but the mesmerizing horrific note that came to light recently is that Kang the Conqueror is owned by FOX, and that any plans anyone had to use him in conjunction with a story about the Time Stone in the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been nixxed.
FOX can't give the rights back to Marvel, or wilfully allow the rights to lapse without defaulting on their agreements with Constantin Films to act in good faith and make money for everyone, which obviously sounds like a law suit waiting to happen. FOX can sever their relationship Constantin or vice versus, but that in itself would be difficult if the division was not amicable.
Once/if Constantin does not have FOX acting as Big Brother, they'll either find a new partner or sell the rights outright for a massive profit, or more likely frakk up and the rights will lapse to Marvel 7 years after the last movie that got off the ground bombed.
It saves time to say that Fox owns the rights, even if that's not at all true, but the mesmerizing horrific note that came to light recently is that Kang the Conqueror is owned by FOX, and that any plans anyone had to use him in conjunction with a story about the Time Stone in the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been nixxed.
I wonder who owns the rights to Rama-Tut, Immortus and Iron Lad?
That's a weird situation, with Kang being a distant relation to either Doom or Reed Richards, but having first appeared in "Avengers", I would think that he would be in the same gray area as Wanda and Pietro. I'm guessing it comes down to Rama-Tut appearing in FF first.
Bingo.
Now that Raina is dead, I want to see Daisy in a dress with a Daisy prints on it.
Totally on your nose, y'know?
Now that Raina is dead, I want to see Daisy in a dress with a Daisy prints on it.
Totally on your nose, y'know?
Yeah, it's a comics retcon having unforeseen consequences. Maybe not Rama-Tut's appearance precisely, but Kang's backstory generally.
I didn't realise that, but it doesn't rule out a deal. Fox could negotiate with/for Constantin to transfer the rights to Marvel (Constantin are likely to make more profit with a cut of an MCU FF than a second Fox FF movie) in return for X-Men TV rights.
In a perfect world, Fox and Marvel would agree to share Deadpool too.
To camera - 'O.K' kids, where am I this movie ? Mutantville or Avergerstown ? Ah f*ck it, who cares ?'
Constantin paid $250,000.00 for the rights in 1986.
Marvel is not going to buy the rights back off them for more than $249,999 purely on principle, hell someone powerful probably thinks that they shouldn't pay more than $0 considering it's only a 7 year wait for a rights lapse, when the rights are currently probably valued at several hundred million dollars, becuase it's "possible" (but highly unlikely) to make a two billion dollar blockbuster from this concept if you're not a total loser with a fetish for fucking up (Hi Josh Trank, you entertain me well, you glorious disaster-monster.).
Constantin does not profit from returning the rights to Marvel.
Constantin probably receives profit from the back end of even an unsuccessful movie, and probably assumes zero liability during the production and distribution of the movie. If a Fantastic Four movie bombs, or does poorly, then they only get less money from FOX, but they never lose money, if their lawyers are not morons, but of course with such a deal the reverse is also ture in the case of a raging success, they only get a dribble from the teet and not a gushing torrent.
FOX could lose so much money from making Fantastic Four movies that they no longer want to make Fantastic Four Movies, but that just means that someone else takes up Fox's place, which could even be Marvel, who would then have to still pay Constantin the rights to use their own characters, which sounds like a social identity disorder to me, and Marvel would shit a brick first before getting themselves into that situation... Even if that's what they're doing with Spider-Man?
HMMM?
Why the #### didn't they put some of the charatcers from the X-Men movies in the new Fantastic Four? Pyro vs Johnny Storm would be hilarious even if Aaron is busy on 12 Monkeys.
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Marvel is not going to buy the rights back off them for more than $249,999 purely on principle, hell someone powerful probably thinks that they shouldn't pay more than $0 considering it's only a 7 year wait for a rights lapse, when the rights are currently probably valued at several hundred million dollars, becuase it's "possible" (but highly unlikely) to make a two billion dollar blockbuster from this concept if you're not a total loser with a fetish for fucking up (Hi Josh Trank, you entertain me well, you glorious disaster-monster.).
Constantin does not profit from returning the rights to Marvel.
Constantin probably receives profit from the back end of even an unsuccessful movie, and probably assumes zero liability during the production and distribution of the movie. If a Fantastic Four movie bombs, or does poorly, then they only get less money from FOX, but they never lose money, if their lawyers are not morons, but of course with such a deal the reverse is also ture in the case of a raging success, they only get a dribble from the teet and not a gushing torrent.
FOX could lose so much money from making Fantastic Four movies that they no longer want to make Fantastic Four Movies, but that just means that someone else takes up Fox's place, which could even be Marvel, who would then have to still pay Constantin the rights to use their own characters, which sounds like a social identity disorder to me, and Marvel would shit a brick first before getting themselves into that situation... Even if that's what they're doing with Spider-Man?
HMMM?
Why the #### didn't they put some of the charatcers from the X-Men movies in the new Fantastic Four? Pyro vs Johnny Storm would be hilarious even if Aaron is busy on 12 Monkeys.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfT9HX38ShM[/yt]
Good question. By this logic, the rights holder to the FF should own the Black Panther as well. It must not be as cut and dry as we think.
I could see Black Panther and the Inhumans not falling under the FF rights because they both "graduated" to their own series rather than remaining supporting characters -- the same reason that Wolverine is covered under the X-Men license even though he originated in The Incredible Hulk. But I don't know why the Kree and the Skrulls would fall under different licenses.
The odd thing is this: Why would Inhumans be separate but not Silver Surfer?
I suppose it could be that when Marvel offered the film rights to other studios, those studios were only interested in certain characters or aspects. Maybe Constantin wanted the rights to the FF and the Silver Surfer and Galactus and the Skrulls, but wasn't interested in the Inhumans and the Kree. But I'm just guessing.
Better guess than what I can come up with. After all, FF's "rogues gallery" is huge. Constantin probably couldn't afford to lock up everything and just took who they considered the most prominent.
