^Which is why I said "can't be bothered to remember" rather than "doesn't remember." I meant to suggest a deliberate disregard.
"Agent Carter" season one discussion and spoilers
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Ah, that makes sense. I never really thought about where the name Peggy came from. I've known a few Peggys and they've never gone by anything else.
I was complaining about this perplexing etymology a week ago.
To be fair, the connection between "Peggy" and "Margaret" is less than obvious. I suspect that most people have forgotten (or never knew) that "Peggy" is derived from "Margaret."
My grandmother was named Margaret and went by Peg. No idea how these things happen. Where do you get Nancy from Ann? Or Dick from Richard?
Likewise. My grandmother was Scottish - maybe "Peggy" has UK derivation?
Oh, btw - that cool little gun the blonde guy was using is a real thing. It's called a Pepperbox, and was created in the old west as a pocket pistol for self defense. It's basically a simple revolver, though, not a freakin machine gun (also they were black powder cap-and-ball guns, not cartridge guns). But for comic book tv show purposes, what the hell. 
^Well, presumably that's the innovation -- not the design of the gun itself, but the fact that it's been made automatic.
I didn't think it was totally forgotten that "Peggy" was a nickname for "Margaret".
My understanding was that the British were fond of both rhyming and alliterative nicknames. That led to all sorts of variations.
William > Will > Bill
Charles > Charlie > Chuck
Richard > Rick > Dick
Margaret > Maggie > Meg > Peg
etc.
If anyone has greater knowledge, please correct me.
That makes sense. I'd never really thought about how multiple nicknames changed the first letter, like Will/Bill and Rick/Dick. Maybe some relation to Cockney rhyming slang?
No mate, that's not how cockney works at all.
The fact is that it's actually very hard to track the how when and why some names gets relatively drastic shortforms. For the most part all we can really know is roughly when and where it started to come into use. That said, from what I've read over the years a lot of it seems to at least partly derive from certain names crossing from one language to another (typically along immigration vectors) where the pronunciation and/or spelling either slightly different, or in the case of literal translation: almost entirely different.
It's the same with any slang really. Nobody really know where half of it even comes from.
According to this site, it came from "Jankin," a diminutive of John/Jan (basically "Little John") which then mutated into "Jackin" and was shortened to "Jack." Interestingly, it's not related to Jacques, which is a French version of Jacob.
By the way, I looked up Peggy on that site too, and it says it's a medieval variant of Meggy with the reason for the consonant change unknown.
Oui, French for John is Jean.
As the family story goes, Dad's mother wanted to officially name him Jack, but whatever authority there was in 1922 told her Jack is NOT a proper name, so you must choose another. She officially went with John (his father's name) and just called him Jack.
Mom, on the other hand - her name is Gladys, and Dad called her Bubbles.
As the family story goes, Dad's mother wanted to officially name him Jack, but whatever authority there was in 1922 told her Jack is NOT a proper name, so you must choose another. She officially went with John (his father's name) and just called him Jack.
Mom, on the other hand - her name is Gladys, and Dad called her Bubbles.
Interesting, both of you! I wasn't too sure about John/Jack; I thought about them but intentionally left them out of my list.
Somebody had a cold...?
Not always.
On Family guy Meg is short for Megatron.
On Family guy Meg is short for Megatron.
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